Jun 27, 2013; Brooklyn, NY, USA; Alex Len (Maryland) walks on stage after being selected as the number five overall pick to the Phoenix Suns during the 2013 NBA Draft at the Barclays Center. Mandatory Credit: Joe Camporeale-USA TODAY Sports

Matt Norlander dishes on the NBA Draft and who fits the Suns


CBSSports.com college basketball writer (and incidentally, my cousin) Matt Norlander gave me his take on the 2014 NBA Draft, from a wide-angle perspective and in terms of who could fit with the Suns. Here’s what he had to say.

Eric Saar: Is this (going to be) the best draft in NBA History? Why or why not?

Matt Norlander: It’s most certainly not going to be the best draft ever. I think 1984 has that one locked up for some time. Could it be the best draft of the past 10 years? I think it’s plausible. I’d define that not only by who gets taken at the top — and how many All-NBA teams those players go on to make — but also the value that’s coming later in the first round and even into round No. 2. I think plenty of guys who get taken in the 30s and 40s this year will wind up playing in the NBA for six or seven seasons, and that’s a big accomplishment when you fall that far.

I think it’s a deep draft and a top-heavy draft. We seldom get both.

ES: How many of  the players in this draft have the potential to be perennial All-Stars? Hall-of-famers?

MN: Hall-of-Fame capability:
Wiggins
Embiid
Parker
Randle

Perennial (let’s say five or more All-Star appearances)
Wiggins
Embiid
Parker
Randle
Exum
Smart
McDermott
Gordon
Anderson

That’s a really good group from this draft. Some reading will say I’m overvaluing this year’s talent. I just don’t think so. I think the group coming in, at large, is mature, NBA-ready and have the game to be successful long-term.

ES: Who should or will go number one overall?

MN: I think Wiggins should and will go No. 1. His ability is still iron ore waiting to be carved out of a mountain. He’s the NBA prototype, and his long-range shooting is likely to get better in the next two years. Athletically he’s able to keep up with NBA players right now, and he’s a good fit for Cleveland. I’m not saying Embiid at No. 1 simply because I cannot trust big men with back issues (Editor’s note: We got answers back from Matt before news of Embiid’s foot injury that will keep him out for 4-6 months). It’s too much of a gamble. He could pan out to be an all-time top 10 center, but that’s the best-case scenario, and you rarely get that with anyone 6-feet-11 or taller.

ES: Phoenix has a pretty solid cast of role players, just needing a superstar. Through the draft they “need” a backup point guard and a power forward, who are the best realistic candidates?

MN: We’re saying PHX doesn’t trade up, right? If that’s the case, they’ll have to go power forward first, in that 14 spot. It’s unrealistic to see Gordon falling that far, and I don’t know enough about Dario Saric’s game to say if he’d be a good fit. Know who I like? Adreian Payne. He’s not seen as lottery-worthy by most, and it confounds me. He’s got range, rebounds like a maniac, can play post-up ball, handles well and is a good rim protector. Has a knock on him for not being a super savvy player and not being exceedingly smart in all situations, but I think he’s just a hair shy of that five-All-Star-game crew I listed above.

If Phoenix gets Payne, Suns fans should be happy.

At point guard, hope Kyle Anderson is around. He’ll likely be slotted as a small forward for NBA purposes, but he deserves a shot at running an NBA offense. Very smart, smooth, savvy player. Incredible vision. He’s one of my favorite players in this draft. If he’s off the board, Shabazz Napier is set up to be a 10-year backup point guard in the NBA — and a very good one. He might well one day get a shot at truly running a team, but chasing Napier or Anderson should be what the Suns key in on at No. 18.

At 27, if they stay put, why not take a chance on Cleanthony Early? He’s forecast anywhere from 22-37 in the mocks I’ve seen. I think no player is more widely spread across the mocks like Early. But he’s a bargain anywhere lower than 30. He’s a small forward, and he’s gotten better with each year. Did you see him perform against Kentucky in the NCAAs? Or help Wichita State enter the tournament undefeated?

ES: Who are the most overrated and underrated players who will probably go in the first round?

MN: Let’s go with two apiece.

Overrated:

Noah Vonleh. I just don’t get it. It’s a guy with big hands, a growing body and solid feet. But fifth overall? I wouldn’t take him until 11th or 12th, personally. (There’s a reason why I write and will never GM, I’m aware.) He was a non-factor in plenty of games at Indiana. I’m failing to see how he’s a better value than a guy I’ve got rated in the underrated section below. When you’re 6-10 in the Big Ten and don’t even shoot 49 percent from the field, I have questions about your stock as a top-five pick in a draft like this.

Zach LaVine. This one is the most popular pick of a player that’s overvalued. LaVine looked lost frequently at UCLA last year. His athleticism and improved 3-point shot have put him in position to be a top-20 pick, but his defensive issues, inability to see the floor and frequent tunnel vision could easily keep him at the D-League level for a year or two. Few guys have left college after a freshman season with more “prove it to me” taped to their back like LaVine.

Underrated:

Julius Randle. So now he’s seen, possibly as a No. 9 or No. 10 pick. A year ago, his name was in the mix to possibly be No. 1 overall. Then he beasted out at Kentucky and totally exceeded the hype. He was a bully on the boards, posted well and proved to be Kentucky’s MVP. With questions regarding possible foot surgery (a screw may need to come out, which dates back to a procedure he had his senior year of high school), that’s the reason he’s slipping. I’m telling you, Randle is going to be a 10-time All-Star, barring injury. Teams will regret passing on him, unless they’ve got one of the first three picks.

Jahii Carson. So he’s seen as a player that could go late 40s or in the 50s. Perhaps it’s because he could be a little too ball-hoggy for a guy playing point guard, but he’s the fast person with the ball in this draft. He’ll be an NBA player for at least eight years. I think his value and talent are much more worthy in the 25-35 range, personally.

ES: A big thanks to Matt for his expert perspective on the draft and the Suns’ part in it. We’ll do another recap a couple days after the draft to see how everything went.

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  • Adam

    Since it looks like the Suns are out of the running for Love (maybe were never in)…I REALLY want to see them make a move to get Randle. I think he would be awesome here. Let’s hope he slips enough to put in range of our trade up.

    • Hawki

      Absolutely agree Adam…..while Vonleh has nice potential he is not as good as Randle & I’ve seen both of them play a lot.
      If Randle somehow falls to #8 then I would love to see the Suns make a move to jump up & get him.
      ..
      Plus, Randle has a built-in Suns nickname….”Orange Julius” .
      Suns Nation would go WILD if Randle was acquired.

    • 4everis2long

      Adam I agree with you and Hawki about Randle. I saw an ESPN projection Friday night that did not have Randle in the top ten. Are you kidding me? If there is a player worth moving up for, it is Randle.

  • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

    Cleveland will trade down from the number one since center Emblid is now off their board. They want and need a center. Do any of you send Alex Len and maybe a pick to Cleveland for the Suns very first overall #1 pick?

    • Adam

      If they would do it…then I would in a second!

      I would rather offer Bledsoe and picks…because I’m assuming we would have to take Wiggins with the #1 pick.

      Let’s just say, and obviously this is far-fetched.

      Trade Bledsoe, + #18 + Lakers pick next year for #1 overall.

      #1 Draft Wiggins
      #14 Draft Payne
      Trade #27 for a furture first.

      Lineup for the next 5 years : Dragic, Goodwin, Wiggins, Payne, Len

      • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

        Their biggest needs are at center and SF. They are about to max Irving so they don’t need Bledsoe. Alex Len and the 14th where they could select a wing makes sense for them.

        Spencer Hawes and Loul Deng are free-agents. Suns could take whomever at #1 and offer Greg Monroe a huge contractto pry him away from Detroit and Suns would be good.

  • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

    Warriors are out of their minds if they send Thompson and Lee to Minny for Love and Martin.

    • 4everis2long

      Just a hunch but I think Warriors feel Harrison Barnes as a starter would admirably fill in for Thompson. He won’t shoot as well but he is more athletic and enjoys going to the hole. Love will still stretch the floor for Curry, Barnes and Iggy to penetrate. If the Warriors do not give up a future 1st round pick I think they do the deal. The 2015 1st round pick could hold it up though. So Gm EBJM you would put the brakes on the deal?

      • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

        Absolutely! IMO Love doesn’t do that much more than David Lee to give up Thompson. Thompson is EXTREMELY popular in the Bay area as he is the defensive stopper Iggy was suppose to be. Thompson was the Warriors version of the Suns young Marion defensively.

        IMO Thompson is integral to the Warriors success and is their 2nd best player after Curry. It would be equivalent to a Bledsoe, Markieff, and the Laker’s 2015 1sr rd pick. Too much.

        • 4everis2long

          I think I would also nix the deal if I had to give up a future 1st round pick. Would you do the trade if it did NOT involve a 1st round pick? It is interesting you referenced Bledsoe, Markief and a Lakers 1st round pick because on another blog someone commented that Gambo indicated McD (double hearsay) was not interested in including Bledsoe or Dragic in any deal for Love. If true I am glad to hear that.

          • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

            I like Thompson and would move Barnes instead. The fact the Wolves and Lakers want Thompson over Barnes speaks volumes about who is the better player today.

            IMO Barnes and Iggy are redundant.

      • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

        Lakers have offered the Warriors the 7th pick for Thompson and would draft for Minny. But would the Wolves ask for Lee and Barnes? Way too much.

  • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

    Nuggets came big, offered Faried, Chandler, and the 11th pick for Love and Martin.