Suns miss out on Eric Gordon, turn eyes to O.J. Mayo

Posted by on July 14th, 3:30 pm

It comes as no surprise, but the New Orleans Hornets have matched the Suns’ $58 million offer to Eric Gordon. ESPN’s Marc Stein was the first to break the news.

While many in Phoenix were hopeful that the Hornets might let Gordon walk, New Orleans was adamant from the outset that it intended to match any offer Gordon received. The Hornets also rebuffed the idea of a sign-and-trade from the Suns.

“While we are disappointed that Eric will not be a Sun at this time, we have no regrets in doing all that we could under the rules to bring him to Phoenix,” Suns president of basketball operations Lon Babby said in a statement. “Once Eric passes his physical in New Orleans, our full cap room will be restored and we will move forward in free agency.  In the meantime, we are on track to pursue our plans.”

This announcement is disappointing for the Suns, who were looking to land Gordon as both a 20-plus point per game scorer and the de facto “face of the franchise” in the wake of Steve Nash’s departure to Los Angeles. This news is also disappointing for Gordon himself as he has expressed publicly many times that his unqualified desire was to play in Phoenix.

However, Gordon predictably took back much of that venom today in a statement released by the team.

“There is always a business element to the NBA when dealing with contracts, but I never lost my appreciation for the New Orleans fans,” Gordon said. “I look forward to giving my very best on the court this season to make our team successful.”

The Hornets followed up on their commitment to keep Gordon, and clearly new owner Tom Benson wants the team to win now. The Hornets’ roster still needs some work in my opinion. Gordon is a talented scorer, but pairing him with Austin Rivers does not a great backcourt make. In the same way, Anthony Davis and Ryan Anderson seem like an odd frontcourt pairing as neither is a true center. But I’ll let the guys at Hornets247 extol the virtue, or lack their of, of the Hornets’ roster. Back to Phoenix.

With Gordon out of the picture, the Suns will turn their eyes to O.J. Mayo. The 24 year-old shooting guard visited the team yesterday, and it’s likely his phone (or his agent’s phone) will be ringing again today. To ask whether or not Mayo is the best guy for the Suns to pursue is to miss the point a little bit. Phoenix needs an experienced shooting guard and the market for those is drying up quickly.

Jerryd Bayless was a possible target, but he signed with the Grizzlies. Another option is Courtney Lee, but I personally like Mayo a great deal more. O.J. seems to me like a player who needs a change of scenery after playing four seasons in Memphis. Mayo averaged 18 points per game while starting every game but one in the first two years of his career. He has started only 17 games since then and his scoring has dropped off considerably. It’s possible that Mayo was miscast as an off the bench scorer by Memphis. If Alvin Gentry gives Mayo a chance to start, he could be very productive as a Sun.

On other fronts, Phoenix will now be able to officially sign Goran Dragic and Michael Beasley to the contracts the two sides agreed upon. Both players agreed to wait until the Eric Gordon situation was settled before signing so the Suns could hang on to some other players like Robin Lopez and not have to make an amnesty move.

Now that Gordon won’t be joining the team, the Suns have about $11 million left in cap space. It is understood that the front office intends to spend that money on Mayo (or another FA shooting guard) and Lopez. Due to some financial rules, the Suns may have to renounce Lopez’s Bird rights before signing the shooting guard.

For now, the Suns can avoid using the amnesty clause on any of their players. However, if a promising free agent situation or trade were to present itself in the next week, the front office won’t hesitate to clear cap room by whatever means necessary. For Josh Childress, the end of the Eric Gordon saga means a sigh of relief, but by no means will this be the end of amnesty speculation surrounding him.

Though Phoenix didn’t acquire Gordon, its pursuit of him shows an initiative on the part of the front office that fans and media members must salute. The Suns took their shot at an instant reboot. Unfortunately for them they missed, but taking that shot is still significant. Now the front office must stay true to its word and preserve its cap space until another player like Gordon becomes available via free agency or trade.

What no one wants to happen is a repeat of the offseason after Amare’s departure when Childress, Hakim Warrick, and Channing Frye were signed to multi-year deals that seemed questionable at the time and potentially crippling now. Beasley and Dragic are good pieces, but the cap space must be preserved for a great player, not simply a collection of good ones. If the cap space is wasted, the next few seasons might go from the post-Nash era to the post-Nash hangover. No one wants that.

Ryan Weisert

Ryan Weisert is a staff writer for ValleyoftheSuns. You can also find him at his sports and pop culture blog Spectavius.com.

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Tags: Free Agency · Phoenix Suns

100 responses so far ↓

  • 1 nolakid21 // Jul 14, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Taking shots at the Hornes roster. You must be bitter.

  • 2 Wilson // Jul 14, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Take shots how? Only two lines in the whole article were about the Hornets. o_O

    (Not to mention Gordon is on record saying he and Rivers seem like redundant talent.)

  • 3 Ryan Weisert // Jul 14, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Not bitter, just slightly perplexed by their roster. I saluted them getting rid of Ariza and everyone they gave to Orlando for Ryan Anderson, but I don’t really understand the Anderson acquisition. With how much the Hornets are paying him, he looks to be their starting PF. Except they just spent the #1 pick on PF who is too skinny to play Center. I don’t question Davis’ shot blocking, but he’s not going to be able to body up against the big boys in the West like Jefferson and Bynum. He will struggle on both ends of the floor against guys like that, so New Orleans already has a roster issue there. Now add in the Rivers/Gordon combo. Neither of those guys wants to play point guard and neither is big enough to play small forward. So like I said, not bitter, just confused.

  • 4 Greg // Jul 14, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Yea lol, the two things he said about their roster was dead on. Anderson is a stretch four, cant defend 3s or 5s very well, so pairing him with Davis is a little odd. I don’t see Rivers as a PG, so the Rivers/Gordon backcourt doesnt seem to be a great match either

  • 5 Tony // Jul 14, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Why should we as Suns fans congratulate the Suns FO for failing once again? Everyone in their right mind knew the Hornets were going to match, so at the expense of tying up the all-important cap room, what beneficial purpose did pursuing Gordon serve? I know some will say that it shows the Suns can attract top talent, but if they are unable to actually get that talent in a Suns uniform, then all it really demonstrates is that the Suns were willing to overpay a glorified scorer who gets hurt all the time and that they still couldn’t manage to get him.

    Once again, results are what matter. So far, for Nash and Hill, we have Dragic, Beasley, four late round picks, and possibly Mayo or Lee. Yet, the dummies over at Brightside of the Morons are all giddy about the FO’s effort as if offering the max to Gordon, who I’m sure the FO knew NO would match, shows renewed leadership! The Suns will be lucky to win 30 games this season, even if they get Mayo.

  • 6 bk // Jul 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    There is a blind spot of believing the previous most improve players. Suns had mistake on 2 of them: Aaron Brooke and Hedo Tukulogu. So, I’m not confident on this Ryan Anderson.

  • 7 CoBo // Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @Tony

    Yes we tied up cap space but what FA was out there at SG that we wasted time on not offering while we waited on the inevitable? As far as your post Nash and hill assessment…really? Nash was leaving regardless, now we have extra picks for trades on draft day or during the season. we could also pick players that fit our system with the late rounders rather than potential lottery busts. Grant Hill is over the “hill” love the guys but will be unproductive where ever he goes next year, if he even plays. Nash+Hill=78 years old yikes, we got younger and more athletic this off season.

  • 8 AH // Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    It’s not like they have awell balanced roster…

  • 9 Jason A. // Jul 14, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    @Tony you’re delusional.

  • 10 cha cha cha // Jul 14, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    “previous most improve players.”

    Bobby Simmons was another 1-year wonder

  • 11 joey // Jul 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    tony i would trade nash and hill anyday for dragic, beasley, mayo and 4 picks. what a huge upgrade! dragic and nash are a wash considering nash’s age. beasley and mayo are about 35-40ppg combined compared to hills maybe 15ppg. plus we got 4 picks!!! are you kidding me! what a fantastic offseason. great job fo

  • 12 Nick Ptak // Jul 14, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Tony, Hill walked as an FA you can’t compare the players we got to Hill. Getting 4 picks for Nash is better than nothing. Would’ve rather have Shumpert but New York backed out of the deal.

    Dragic, Mayo, and Beasley is a nice start to a rebuild. When have we gotten solid young pieces in free agency? Mayo and Beasley need changes of scenery. I expect them to band together and form a dynamic scoring combo.

    What’s the point of having the hater glasses on? So what if they fail at least they really gave it a solid effort. Gordon gets hurt alot and he costs more so now we have more cap space to go get another good free agent after we amnesty childress, and let telfair and warrick go next season.

    Dragic, Mayo, Beasley a guy like Millsap and Gortat would be a great starting 5 if they all hit their potential.

    The draft is a crap shoot.

    Who wants to get the 3rd pick and strike out? Happens all the time.

    We now have the number 2 and 3 picks in the 2008 draft on the team (If Mayo signs)

  • 13 A-ROCK // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    I agree with Joey, Tony your dumb as usual so get a real life.

  • 14 Ty-Sun // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Gordon was the best shot the Suns had at bringing in at least a proven scorer. They offered him a max deal and NO matched it. Were they hoping to get NO to come to the table for some sort of sign and trade deal? I think that at least they hoped for that, especially after NO drafted Rivers instead of Marshall. Marshall really would have made much more sense for them instead of trying to turn Rivers into a PG unless they are looking forward and intend to trade Gordon sometime in the future, acquire a real PG and move Rivers into Gordon’s spot. But who gives a crap about NO’s future problems now.

    I still think that Childress can be useful as a backup 2 or 3 and Frye can also because he can play well as a backup 4 or 5. Warrick can play the 3 or 4 but does neither very well and is really the odd man out since he’s too slow to guard opposing 3′s and too weak to guard opposing 4′s.

    If the Suns do sign Mayo, I disagree that they will be “lucky” to win 30 games. I think that would be near the worst case scenario. Depending on who the Suns sign to fill out their roster, I think that they should at least finish the season at .500. That would still suck but I just don’t think they will be as bad as some people think they will be. Without Mayo.. yeah, a 30 win season is very possible. And if Beasley turns out to be a bust too, a 20 win season is possible. And if Dragic also fails to live up to expectations… move over Charlotte. Your worst NBA season ever record may be in jeopardy.

    But I doubt that the worst case scenario comes to be.

  • 15 Mike M // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise. I was in support of going after Gordon, but there was always a little part of me doubting him. For one, he’s coming off a serious injury and I just get nervous anytime a guy that young is dealing with serious injuries.

    Second, I don’t know that I see him as a “cornerstone” as the FO advertised. He’s a great, great player, but not sold on him being the guy you build a team around. Notwithstanding the other roster issues NO might have, I think it makes sense for New Orleans to pair him with Davis with Davis as the guy to build around. I think Eric Gordon liked the idea of being “the guy” for Phoenix but I think he would have been as successful as Joe Johnson was as “the guy” for the Hawks. Not bad, but never going to contend for a title.

    Anyway, while I criticize the FO all the time (they usually deserve it), I’m glad they made the effort. They have to keep thinking big if they ever want to contend. Yeah, getting Dwight Howard seems very unlikely, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try. I’d like to see them act more aggressive like this, more like the Rockets’ Daryl Morey. He hasn’t been successful yet in landing a big time free agent but it seems like just a matter of time.

    In that vein, I’d rather not spend the rest of our cap on O.J. Mayo, though I think he’s a good player. At least don’t get tied up for more than a year or two.

  • 16 Roger // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Sigh of relief for Childress.

    Let’s get Mayo, for a reasonable 3 yr max, front load it like someone suggested.

    Re-sign Lopez or do a s&t for another 1st rounder, accumulate picks and then sell combo for top 5 pick next year.

    Win the bid for Scola for 10mil over 3 years, this would be fantastic, also keep him away from SA or Dallas. The guy can give you better scoring, rebounding and effort than our cartoon Lopez. Scola can play both 4 and 5 on most nights. We don’t need Siler or another overweight as back-up 5.

    Next watch the summer league for a gem or two to complete the roster. We don’t need Price, Brown or Redd. Go with youth to rebuild the team.

    Finally, keep some powder dry until Feb trading deadline, there will be some desperate team that will want to unload a really good player.

  • 17 chris // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    the suns need to go for dwight howard and rebuild around him cause if we got him we would be a contender and dwight would want to stay

  • 18 steve // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    “So far, for Nash and Hill, [the Suns] have…” (originally “we,” but I altered the wording so it actually makes sense ;))

    The Suns don’t have anything for Hill… except the past five seasons.

    I’ve never understood the idea that having a player walk in free agency is equivalent to “getting nothing for him.” He did a lot for the Suns over the past five seasons. It was certainly worth having him around, and if the FO deemed his services rendered to be more valuable than the assets he could yield in some sort of a trade, then there is absolutely nothing we, as fans, can do about it.

    I know a lot of people have already sounded off on this very thing, but I thought I’d put in my $0.02 anyway.

  • 19 Ty-Sun // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Morey has gutted Houston to make a play for Howard. If Orlando finally agrees to trade Howard to them, there will only be Howard and 3-4 of his Magic teammates on the Houston roster! I’m serious. EVERY current player on Houston’s current roster will be gone if they make the trade for Howard which will bring Howard and 3-4 of his current Magic teammates to Houston. That is the ultimate gamble. Morey has balls, I’ll give him that for sure.

  • 20 steve // Jul 14, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    @Roger – I’m not so sure Childress is relieved by this. If he had been amnestied, he would have got his money and been able to go get MORE from another team that would actually use him.

    @chris – Wouldn’t that be awesome? We can dream. I agree that Howard would want to stay if he ever made his way to the desert, I just don’t think he sees things that way. He would be a god here, especially if he brought home a title.

  • 21 chris // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    now that the suns have draft pics they should trade them for howard miami is going to be in the finals for the next few years the west is open to any team to make the finals and if howard wants to have a title shot he needs to come to the west and if he was in phx he will get a title the suns need to go after howard

  • 22 cha cha cha // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Howard’s not coming without Nash here.

  • 23 chris // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    i had respect for nash and new he was going to leave but nash sold out and went to the sorry ass lakers hes to old howard would do better with dragic and ad grant hill

  • 24 Rich Anthony, (KJL) // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Okay, stop about Dwight Howard. You guys are crazy.

    I wanted PHX to get involved in the D12 sweepstakes but only as a “middle man” team that would get a little something for making the deal between the 2 main teams work.

    Maybe something like getting back a young guy plus a draft pick for taking on one bloated, (and soon to be expiring) contract, but not to actually go after Howard.

    You guys need to think about it before you start wishing.

    Brooklyn were offering Brook Lopez, draft picks, Hump in a S&T, MarShon Brooks, PLUS pieces from a third team just to land Howard and some of his fellow Magic players.

    Houston is allowing Orlando to basically look their roster over and pick out exactly what they want.

    So why would you guys want Phoenix to get involved in that? Our roster cannot rival Houstons, Los Angeles or Brooklyns.

    For PHX to get Howard they’d have to give up most of their draft picks over the next 3 years, Gortat, Dragon, Dudley, Morris just to be in line with what Brooklyn / HOU have offered.

    So… uh, what exactly are the Suns supposed to do if they did win the sweepstakes? Have D12 and, what exactly?

    Then, he’s on record saying he will not sign an extension anywhere but Brooklyn, so if he walks out the door what do you have left?

    Come on, guys.

  • 25 Rich Anthony, (KJL) // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    @chris – Get out.

  • 26 shazam // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    ryan quote——>”Though Phoenix didn’t acquire Gordon, its pursuit of him shows an initiative on the part of the front office that fans and media members must salute.”..must salute huh?..everyone on the planet knew NO was going to match..including the front office..it was just a con to get a moron writer to give out kudos so a few fans believe in the front office…shouldnt you be putting effort in to writing children’s books?..or stick drawings for those with down syndrome?…get out of here and don’t come back

  • 27 cha cha cha // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    yeah, and if Nash hadn’t “sold out” the Mavs, the Suns wouldn’t have averaged 55 wins/year in his first 6 seasons as a Sun. and the FO traded away every other SSOL player and ditched D’Antoni, then wasted the better part of 2 seasons of “prime Nash” with the Terry Porter experiment. the Nash+Suns=ring window is closed.

  • 28 cha cha cha // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    “Hump in a S&T”

    i feel like this should be the basis of a Humphries internet meme

  • 29 Roger // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    @ steve

    Under amnesty rule, a player cannot get more than his contract including the non-guaranteed portion. In Scola’s case, the non-guaranteed portion is $10mil which becomes the minimum bid as I understand it and the guaranteed balance $20mil has to be paid by Houston. If the bid is higher, say, $15 mil, then Houston benefits by every $ over $10mil so they’re probably rooting for some team to bid high.

    I think in his heart, Childress wants a chance with Phx and at this stage with two years in the Phx system, he doesn’t have to relearn a new system. Worst think that could happen to him would be to get picked up by a contender and still warm the bench. The writing is however on the wall, unless he proves otherwise, he’s going to be released by Phx, I just don’t know when. It was a bad contract for the Suns. Irony is I like his skills, professional demeanor and intelligence. He is just on a wrong team.

  • 30 joey // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    i agree with getting sciola. he would be a big upgrade at pf and as a waiver claim we could get him alot cheaper. a starting 5 of dragic, mayo, beasley, sciola, gortat would definitely be a playoff team. maybe even a 4th seed. imagine 3 white guys in the starting five in todays nba.lol that’s a feat in it of itself.lol

  • 31 chris // Jul 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    im only saing the suns should go after howard because it will never happen like u guys said thats all a dream the suns management dont know how to put a good team together

  • 32 Rishi // Jul 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    I’m actually happy this didn’t turn out because he is an undersized guard an inch shorter than d wade but perhaps less talented and more injury prone. I say lets get Mayo for not too much money and see what type of pick our lottery bound season brings next year. If we don’t get Mayo then we know it will be an even tougher season next year but maybe they can play marshall and dragic together in the backcourt.

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  • 34 cha cha cha // Jul 14, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    i like where your head’s at regarding Terrence Williams

  • 35 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Zoran Dragic just got his first minutes in a game; 1st quarter Rockets v Wiz. He might have the highest b-ball IQ of anyone on the court.

  • 36 Alex // Jul 14, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    What alot of people are over looking is that Beasley and Mayo were both top 5 picks a few years ago….and were also on teams were they weren’t the top dog….Beasley was with the Heat with D-Wade then went to the Wolves with Love and then with Rubio….then Mayo was with the Memphis and had a great rookie year then got pushed out of rotation because there coaches suxed…so now you put them in system that is made for young and talented players they should thrieve in it….and it will help with a PG that knows the system and doesn’t have to learn it…the Dragon can and will make them both better…..and if all else fails try and get Harden next year via S&T…

  • 37 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    In fact, with the way they don’t give Zoran the ball, and they don’t play him many minutes – though he’s obviously good, and can make a difference without having the ball – it makes me wonder if they’re trying to hide him.

  • 38 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Satoransky was a great pick by the Wiz, BTW. He’s got to return to Europe to finish out his contract, but he’s a good young player who will make a difference for his team when he comes to play in the NBA.

    However … he may be wearing his shorts inside out. There’s a tag hanging at his waist. lol

    Gotta underline the opportunity some team will have with Zoran, even based on just a few minutes of play. Looking at him was like watching Lin play in Summer League a few years ago.

  • 39 Tony // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    @A-Rock,

    why you don’t you go back and smoke that crack you dumb ass pathetic loser.

    @Jason,

    youth does not equal success. Look at the Kings, they have a ton of young talent and how many games have they won? Furthermore, what has Beasley done to deserve any admiration?? Dragic is a nice pickup, but he’s yet to prove he’s a legit starting pg.

    @Steve,

    your opinion is worth about 2 cents;) Since you don’t understand the value of letting a player walk via free agency, a perfect example is the Nuggets. They could have simply allowed Anthony to walk via free agency and gotten nothing in return. Yet, instead, they traded him for half of NY’s team. Don’t you think they are better off trading him versus letting him leave in free agency?

  • 40 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    BTW … everyone was sure the Knicks would match any offer on Lin. The Knicks said they’d match. When the poison pill contract was offered, the Knicks laughed and said they could easily match it.

    And then … the Knicks said they would not match.

    Lin goes to Houston.

  • 41 Rich Anthony, (KJL) // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Melo’s scenario is a little bit different than the norm. I can’t really give Denver any credit on that.

    New York’s FO was totally fine with waiting on Melo to become a free agent. He was going to New York regardless. The owners there basically put a gun to their had and instructed them to get Melo “now.”

    Denver had no power in the matter really, and were already preparing for life after Melo. That was all NY.

    Zoran’s got game. I’ve seen a bit of him on television as well. We’ll see how he does.

    Chilly could be a beast for the Suns and with the new dynamic he probably could be. There isn’t that absolute need for him to know how to shoot now because the team will be headed towards the rim a lot more.

    At the very least, if he remains and lands a bench mob spot, he is the perfect push-ahead player for Marshall.

  • 42 A-ROCK // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Tony your breath stinks shut up.

  • 43 Jason A. // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @Tony I agree with your analysis of the Kings but I don’t think the Suns are comparable. The Kings organization isn’t very stable.

    Elaborating on my earlier comment that you’re delusional, I would have to say you are being shortsighted when being so critical of the FO for signing EG to an offer sheet. There is definitely capital built up with the players and agents, and it shows strong business sense to be willing to pay for players and follow through with the offer sheet when everyone knew Nola would match. If you can’t acknowledge this aspect of the EG signing then you haven’t thought enough about the business side of the NBA.

    Regarding 30 wins (with Mayo), sorry but you are seriously delusional. I don’t see any way we could reload our team with young talent with upside potential and not win 30 games. Maybe I’m delusional but I see that team winning 45+.

  • 44 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    With the injury to Marcus Morris, Zoran Dragic is getting more time. While he’s making smart plays, it looks like he might be struggling to adjust to the greater athleticism in the NBA.

    More games against NBA talent should help that.

    FWIW, Siler just followed up an assist with a dunk. :)

  • 45 CoBo // Jul 14, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    @steve

    Go look up YouTube videos of Zoran. Granted its against euro players, but he looks really good.

  • 46 CoBo // Jul 14, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Meant Scott oops

  • 47 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Heh, Siler’s tearing it up. Clearly he learned a lot from playing with the Suns. He’s hammering home his dunks and running the floor. He even got a transition lay up!

  • 48 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @CoBo -

    I doubt I’ll watch those videos, since my main interest is in how he plays against NBA talent, but thanks for the tip. In this game, he’s playing good defense, hustling all over the place, stealing, disrupting passes, he’s always in the right spot on the court, and so on.

    His defense has already been compared by Chris Webber to Ginobili’s whirling offense.

    He’s picked up a few fouls too, which I think is a timing issue related to dealing with longer faster players. Similarly, he’s only made one bucket, having missed his 3s and having had his layups swatted.

  • 49 Scott // Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Zoran’s playing PG now, and doing a competent job. He still can’t buy a bucket in this game.

  • 50 Cam // Jul 14, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @Scott: I’m with you on Satoransky. I was hoping the Suns would swing a draft day trade to pick him up. The kid has got some length to him and looks like he may have a future in the NBA. Worst case scenario the Suns would’ve been out a couple million for the trade and the ungaraunteed contract. Go Suns.

  • 51 JC // Jul 14, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Anyone know how long we can expect Eric Gordon’s physical with NOLA to take? And the chances Phoenix still gets Mayo even with the Lakers, Mavs, and Bulls seemingly interested?

  • 52 HankS // Jul 15, 2012 at 12:20 am

    @ JC:
    I’d say it depends on Mayo’s preferences… The Suns can probably offer more money and definitely a much greater role than any of those teams. OTOH, not as many wins and no rings at the foreseeable future. But the way the Suns are shaking up, young and financially flexible, I think he might want to be here.

  • 53 Scott // Jul 15, 2012 at 12:29 am

    I think the Suns have an excellent shot at Mayo. Keep in mind … players want to play, and they want to start. That’s important.

    So since the money’s there, and probably the years and the starting spot, the chances are good the Suns land him.

    And if not … there are still other options.

  • 54 Alex // Jul 15, 2012 at 1:15 am

    The bottom line is that without a marquee signing, the average fan will only come to games to see the big stars of the other teams. The Suns really need to go and get a star to put butts on seats.

  • 55 tim // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:53 am

    haahahahahaha everybody servvvvvvvvvvvved TONY. that guy is a super dummy anyways so eff it. grant hill is dead and like the guy said after tony, nash was leaving anyways.. unless they swapped rosters with LA entirely. DRAGIC GET AT ME!!!!!

  • 56 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 4:52 am

    Hahaha Super Dummy! Tony is very good at reading Dr. Sues though lol

  • 57 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 4:59 am

    @Tony don’t come back if you can read this, go back to that other website you keep promoting (probably work there too)

  • 58 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 5:07 am

    Anyone like Akos Keller’s game?

  • 59 KeZ // Jul 15, 2012 at 6:37 am

    Akos Keller got game. I wouldn´t be suprised if Phx signed him.

  • 60 Rich Anthony, (KJL) // Jul 15, 2012 at 7:14 am

    Keller is all types of awesome. I’ve seen him on tv a lot over here.

    His PnR IQ and footwork are both great and he has great touch facing up and he WILL dunk it on you if you give him a lane

  • 61 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 7:17 am

    wasn’t really into getting Scola, but maybe it’d be good for Dragic since they played together in Houston last year. same goes for Courtney Lee.

  • 62 JT's Hoops Blog // Jul 15, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Man, that was already a foregone conclusion. What’s the real shocker is that the Knick may no longer have Jeremy Lin. They did a sign and trade deal for Ray Felton. Are they just going to let Lin walk?

  • 63 Rich Anthony, (KJL) // Jul 15, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Well they can match Houston’s offer if they want. They could make it work in the short term if they wanted to keep Lin, but later on they’d have to trim salary.

  • 64 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 8:44 am

    if they match, they’ll have 4 pg’s in Lin, Kidd, Felton, and that dude from Argentina. i’m guessing they play a couple of them at sg, a la CP3/Billups or Rubio/Ridnour. also, they might sign Grant Hill; they would then have 4 of the 6 oldest players in the league.

  • 65 frenchysunsfan // Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Suns should offer Mayo 40 M$ over 4 years, sign Carl Landry and trade Warrick or Frye.

  • 66 Greg // Jul 15, 2012 at 8:48 am

    @Alex, the Suns do need star-power, its very obvious the NBA is a star’s league in every aspect. Marketing, tickets, winnings, etc. However, I believe the Suns are doing best they can to whats available to them. I am usually a pessimist, but Dragic, Mayo, and Beasley all have that “star” potential, its just a matter of if one or two of them fulfill that potential. Not too many people outside of PHX like what the Suns are doing, personally I think a lot of people are going to be proven wrong in a year or two.

  • 67 Die Hard Suns Fan // Jul 15, 2012 at 10:33 am

    4 years 40 million is over spending ,, maybe 4 years 32 million, i would like to sign mayo to 4 years for sure . leggo mayo

  • 68 Scott // Jul 15, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Sometimes a team signs stars. Other times, the players on their roster turn into stars. That’s what happened with Amare and Marion, for example.

    Let these Suns go out there and win some games. They’ll become well-known.

  • 69 Scott // Jul 15, 2012 at 10:46 am

    In other news … apparently after finding out he wouldn’t be backing up Lin but Raymond Felton instead, Jason Kidd began drinking and drove his Escalade off the road and into a telephone pole.

  • 70 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 10:50 am

    that’s cold… but very funny.

  • 71 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 11:17 am

    @scott your crazy if you think childress is starting on this team, get your head out of his lap. no way that happens.

  • 72 Scott // Jul 15, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    @A-ROCK -

    Where did I say that Childress was a preferred choice as a starter? I don’t even mention Childress on this page.

    All I can recall saying recently regarding Childress – aside from him being a primary trade candidate for a player with a bad contract – is that if necessary he could play SG for the 2nd unit and possibly get transition points playing with a passing PG who pushes the ball, like Kendall Marshall.

    If Childress WAS to start, it’s clear whoever plays with him – either at SG or SF – needs to be a volume scorer, so Josh’s efficient offense becomes a virtue rather than a liability.

  • 73 Scott // Jul 15, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    NBA TV just reported a strong rumor of a deal where Bynum goes to Cleveland and Howard goes to the Lakers.

  • 74 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    @Scott I have my eye on you and you are very forgetfull, the previous article titled Breaking down the Phoenix Suns Summer League roster you said Childress is starting sf and you need to get out of town. the team you u put together of….. Dragic, Dudley, Childress, Beasley, Gortat. Is a D league team.

  • 75 Tony // Jul 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    @Tim,

    hahahahaha!! You’re a moron loser and i just served you! Oh let me use A-Rock’s analysis to back my points, your breath stinks! Yeah, now I got you ! When did Hill die loser? You think you’re funny disrespecting Grant Hill but all it does is show how disloyal and pathetic you are. Plus the immature nature of your posts, in conjunction with your childish posts makes me believe you and A-Crack are the same person.

    @A-Loser,

    don’t you have some junior high homework to do? Too much of that crack you smoke is warping your mind dumb ass!

  • 76 Tony // Jul 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    @Scott,

    don’t bother with A-Crack, he’s prob to high right now to know what even he said five minutes ago.

    @Jason,

    you must be delusional if you think that roster, including Mayo, will lead to 45 wins. Firstly, even if they had a much better roster, it takes time for so many new players on a roster to gel and develop chemistry. Even the Heat, with the best player in the NBA, needed some time to learn how to play with each other and start winning consistently. The Suns, in contrast, still have very limited talent, and have very little chemistry since they will have so many new players this season on the roster.

    Next, the NBA is a stars league and as of now, the team still doesn’t have a star player. If you think Dragic or Mayo is a star player, then you’re even more delusional than I thought. Teams without star talent simply are not contenders.

    Lastly, have you looked at Beasley and Mayo’s career statistics? I don’t know why you have such confidence in them as neither are efficient scorers, neither are good defensively, and neither are really team-oriented players. If there’s one thing we’ve learned over these last 8 years, it’s that being good teammates and having great team chemistry can overcome lack of talent to some degree.

  • 77 joey // Jul 15, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    we need to lock up mayo and pick up scola. scola can give up a post pf which we really need. plus he’s got a solid face up jumper. with scola, mayo, beasley, dragic, gortat we would have a playoff team. if dragic plays like he did a couple years ago against the spurs, then we could make the second round. we would have a very talented young team and exciting to watch. mayo and beasley are big upgrades over shannon brown and grant hill. hill is old and brown is inconsistent. now we have 2 guys who can score 25-30 on any night. we didn’t have that last year. plus scola can put up 20-10 on any night. gortat and dragic can score 20 also. not sayi.g they will average 20ppg, but the threat is there and it wasn’t last year. i think we’ll have to play more zone defense to make up for some poor individual defenders. but our offense will be fun to watch and lots of points will be scored. i think 45 wins in very possible with scola and mayo

  • 78 Jason A. // Jul 15, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    @Tony once again you make some good ponts but you’re missing part of the picture. If Mayo and Beasley don’t embrace the “team” concept then of course they won’t be successful here. My assumptions are based on the fact that they will embrace Suns basketball and play the right way. This will eliminate the poor shot selection these players showed in the past. I’m also assuming these players have been humbled recently (both relegated to the bench last year and both let go by their respective teams) and they’re open to change.

    If my assumptions are wrong, then we will win closer to 30 games and the signings will be regarded as failures. Rightfully so. But it’s not logical that they would come in here with attitude so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

  • 79 Tony // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    @Jason,

    I would agree with you if the team had strong veteran leadership, but they don’t. It’s very foreseeable that Beasley and Mayo will devolve into another Peitrus situation when he was a Sun. And that was even with Nash and Hill and the Suns were still a respectable team. Now, Beasley and possibly Mayo are joining a lottery team that plays a very free flowing undisciplined offensive system. How likely do you think either of those players will be disciplined enough to put the team ahead of themselves? I just don’t see it. With that being said, I might be completely wrong, only time will tell.

  • 80 Tony // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    There you go, nice pickup by the Suns FO in getting Scola. He’s an underrated player who has the veteran savy to help this Suns team. Scola will fit nicely.

  • 81 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    excellent pick up considering he’s already put in court time with Dragic

  • 82 AZDAM // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    I think the Suns will put a better prodcut on the floor next year.

  • 83 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    There will be a better product this year we just need the coach to be able to handle this product. He actually has to coach rather than have a coach on the floor in nash. Tony your always wrong. But scola is a good pick

  • 84 Kenny // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    wait, so we did pick up Scola? where’d that come from?

  • 85 AZDAM // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Front page of HOOPSHYPE.COm and @Tony above. Thanks for the information.

  • 86 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    ESPN/Marc Stein

  • 87 sturmtank // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    very nice pickup. not for rebuilding purposes, but for veteran leadership, low post scoring and improving markief. here’s my quote from friday:
    =====•
    from a starting 5 view, we need a SG and a PF. if we dont get gordon, get mayo.
    go get mayo for something like 7 per, pick up brand or scola (they get payed so maybe they join for 5 per) and whe have a pretty good team already. and still have 10 picks the next 3 years + amnesty clause.
    i’d prefer mayo + scola or brand for 14 than eg for 14.
    PG: dragon / marshall / telfair
    SG: mayo / dudley / (redd)
    SF: beasley / warrick / j- chill
    PF: scola or brand / morris / frye (if lopez signed)
    C: gortat / lopez (or frye if lopez not signed)
    who likes that team? … i would!!
    ========
    well done. to me only mayo left.
    what does that pickup means for frolo? first i thought frye might move to backup 5, but since they released j-chill i think they might resign lopez.
    i dont care as long as they dont pay to much!

  • 88 phx suns fan in la // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Nice pickup ..hope we can get mayo too

  • 89 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    i would Mayo getting for $7mil/year is a longshot, considering his qualifying offer from Memphis would have been $7.4 mil (not to mention the fact that LAL, Chicago, Boston, and Dallas are supposedly interested in him as well).

  • 90 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    “i would think getting Mayo for…”

  • 91 Mike L // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Wow, really surprised and excited to see Scola on this team. I’ve long been a fan of his and his grittiness signals that the Suns are serious about defense … between him and RoLo there is quite a nasty streak in those two that we could have on the floor. My biggest question, though, and the reason why I didn’t think we’d put in a bid is because of Frye. I like Frye and those are two quality PFs, but that’s a lot of money tied up in 2 PFs … even with HOU paying Scola, aren’t we on the hook for a lot of money??

    Still hoping we get Mayo. And a starting 5 of
    Dragic, Mayo, Gortat, Scola and Beasley IS a playoff team in my opinion.

    @cha cha cha … good call on the note about Scola and Dragic having played together. That could be ready-made pick-and-roll right there!

  • 92 Mike L // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    @sturmtank … J-Chill was amenstied before they picked up Scola

  • 93 Tim from British Columbia // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Great to see the Suns get Scola. I always liked his hustle and touch around the basket. Now that it is “old home week” with Dragon coming (yeah!!!) why not get Leandro Barbossa back as he would be a good fit with his old team. I am not saying, “hold the Mayo” as I think he is a good player too but if not what about the Brazilian Blur??

  • 94 Russell // Jul 15, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    It sounds like the Suns were reading my posts yesterday. They have picked up Scola. Now OJ Mayo is next.

  • 95 Ty-Sun // Jul 15, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Hmmm… I can’t help but wonder if the Suns picked up Scola because they might think that Mayo might sign elsewhere. Don’t get me wrong, I do like Scola and think he will be an asset to the Suns but I wonder if this isn’t plan-B we’re seeing. Or hopefully just a move to make the Suns more appealing to Mayo.

    Dragic, Mayo, Beasley, Scola and Gortat as the Suns’ starting 5? Not a world champion but definitely a playoff team, maybe even a 5th or 6th seed. Even if Mayo signs elsewhere I’d say that a Dragic, Dudley, Beasley, Scola and Gortat lineup could be a 7th or 8th seed playoff team.

  • 96 chris // Jul 15, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    suns got scola now nice we will have a good playoff run and the way the west is we could make it to the finals also suns are going to do good this season and in the future

  • 97 cha cha cha // Jul 15, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    if they can’t get Mayo, they might think about Courtney Lee, since Lee, Scola, and Dragic all started together in Houston for the last 2 months of the 11-12 season.

  • 98 Andrew M // Jul 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    sorry to of missed out on Gordon but getting Beasley and Dragic are to young important pieces to rebuilding the Suns to prominence along with Keef and Gortat. i don’t know if signing mayo would improve the team. he is an undersized streaky shooting underachieving 2 guard who couldn’t regain his starting spot when there was no else on the Grizzlies who were that promising
    ahead of him. i would rather see the Suns resign Michael Redd for cheap and give him a chance to regain his form as being one of the best pure shooters and scorers in the league before his injury. having a young talented cast around him should make Redd that much more dangerous. use the money saved on signing Redd this year to get a marquee free agent next year.Any combination of Dragic, Redd, Marshall and Dudley would be pretty good. a Dragic Redd backcourt would be pretty good since both are solid scorers and very good pure shooters. Even a Dragic/Marshall backcourt would be a matchup nightmare for some teams since Marshall is a 6’4 point guard who can get a lot of assists and and play defense on most 2- guards while Dragic can create his own shot and is a solid passer as well.

  • 99 A-ROCK // Jul 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    if markeiff develops his all around game I think he should start, then scola off the bench. sf beasly I hope he plays like the matrix, dragic, we need a sg, and gortat at center, gortat needs to be a defensive specialist this year and make his jumpers because theres no nash to feed him and I guarantee he isn’t the leading scorer on the team. If we find a decent shooting guard I guarantee we make the playoffs and you know I am always right. @ that guy who is dumb as a box of rocks his name rhymes with bony go back to that other website you work for since no one listens to you here.

  • 100 ESPN NEWS // Jul 16, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Mayo = 4th seed
    Lee = 6th seed
    No sg = 8th seed

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