Free agency 2010 Day 1: Phoenix Suns news and rumors


The 2010 free agency period got off to a fast start at 12:01 a.m. ET and the news and rumors haven’t stopped swirling since. For the Phoenix Suns, the big story is Amare Stoudemire. But less than 24 hours into the negotiation period, Channing Frye is making headlines, too. Keep checking back with Valley of the Suns and refresh this page often as we aggregate all the news and rumors as they happen.

9:20 p.m. – It could be all over. Amare Stoudemire’s days in Phoenix may be officially over. John Gambadoro of Sports 620 KTAR has reported that the Suns and Stoudemire have broken off all talks and there is “NO chance he will return to the Phoenix Suns.”

Now, Gambo hasn’t been spot on all day, so it may not be over yet. But Coro reports that Stoudemire’s best offer has come from a team that is not the Phoenix Suns. Coro, however, reports that Amare’s status for returning is “highly unklikely,” according to a source. At least that leaves a chance…

8:00 p.m. – Looks like previous reports were incorrect and the Suns gave Channing Frye what he wanted, giving the center a five-year, $30 million contract. Paul Coro of The Arizona Republic reported the deal and says it is $8 million higher than the Suns’ original offer.

Again, looks like the Suns are spending, but maybe not for Stoudemire. This price had to be sort of forced by Toronto’s offer of five years for $34 million to the highly mediocre Amir Johnson, a player much less valuable than Frye. So there is one free agency issue off the table for the Suns. We’ll have to wait and see for the other…

6:37 p.m. – Via Marc Stein of ESPN, the Suns are showing interest in power forward Hakim Warrick. According to the report, the Suns have showed more interest than other teams and have started discussing money with Warrick’s representatives.

This could be the Suns’ answer to filling the void expected if (or when?) Louis Amundson departs, but it could be more than that. The Suns could lose Channing Frye and this could be their bench replacement there, too. However, it’s still very early.

5:53 p.m. – Looks like the Suns aren’t ready to splurge on Channing Frye. Gambadoro reports that the Suns won’t give Frye the five-year, $32 million kind of deal he’s demanding.

Could be the end of Frye in Phoenix, but it will depend on what kind of offers he gets from other teams. If the Bucks are going to pay Drew Gooden that kind of money, someone will likely give it to Frye, especially with the way money is being thrown around this offseason.

5:39 p.m. – It could just be mind games, but Stoudemire’s business guy Travis King is saying that there are teams ready to offer STAT the max before LeBron James and Dwyane Wade figure out where they’re headed.

This isn’t really a surprise, as there have to be a few teams who see Stoudemire as a key piece to luring James. However, it is a little surprising that teams might be ready to offer a max deal so early.

4:54 p.m. – Stoudemire sets another meeting — Tuesday with the Chicago Bulls — and it appears a wild card team may be entering the mix. According to Gambadoro, Bryan Colangelo and the Toronto Raptors got on the phone with Stoudemire. Looking to replace Chris Bosh perhaps? Can’t imagine Amare in Toronto … unless they put it all ($$$) on the table.

4:00 p.m. – More news from Coro at The Republic: Louis Amundson getting a lot of interest, from about 12 teams at this point. Tough guy for the Suns to lose, as he brings a lot of energy off the bench, but I’d imagine the Suns are looking to fill this void with Earl Clark and their new draft picks.

2:43 p.m. - Sports 620 KTAR’s John Gambadoro reports that it “will take full mid-level for the Suns to keep Channing Frye, which would be between $32 and $34 million over 5 years.”

That isn’t to say Frye has turned the offer down, but again, when a guy like Drew Gooden (10.9 points and 7.7 rebounds per game last season) gets a five-year, $32 million deal, you have to assume Frye at least wants a comparable deal — and can likely get one.

12:56 p.m. - According to an ESPN Chicago report, the Bulls will host David Lee on Friday. Lee has also scheduled visits with the Heat, Timberwolves and Nets.

Lee has been reported as one of Suns managing partner Robert Sarver’s top targets if Stoudemire does not re-sign. But clearly, the Suns’ top priorities right now are Stoudemire and Frye. Perhaps once things become more clear in terms of Stoudemire, the Suns will add their name to the list of teams looking to visit with Lee. Stay tuned…

12:29 p.m. – Paul Coro clears up some of the confusion stemming from an ESPN report that Stoudemire is a “long shot” to remain with the Suns in his latest report. According to the report, Stoudemire spoke with the Suns at least twice on Wednesday, but Stoudemire’s agent said the two sides are “really not that close to an agreement.”

Happy Walters said he and Stoudemire are still open to talks with the Suns if they call, but they are standing firm behind the demand for at least five years. It’s been reported that STAT would take a five-year deal from the Suns, even for less than maximum money, but if that is the case then the Suns clearly haven’t made such an offer. Coro reports that a five-year deal may have been offered, including a team option or injury stipulations that made it unattractive to Stoudemire.

11:57 a.m. -As usual, Paul Coro of The Arizona Republic has his ear to the ground and he is hearing that Channing Frye isn’t jumping at the Suns five-year offer because he and his agent think he can get more money somewhere else.

After players like Drew Gooden (reported five years, $32 million in Milwaukee) and Darko Milicic (four years, $20 million in Minnesota) got big money, Frye has to think he is worth as much or more because of his deep-shooting ability.

Coro suggests that the Suns might just leave the offer on the table until players can sign or start looking into cheaper big man options that have been discussed like Brian Cook or Mark Blount.

11:13 a.m. – Negotiations between Stoudemire and the Suns are over. This according to a report from ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher. In the report, Bucher says talks broke off late Tuesday night. This contradicts previous reports that negotiations were ongoing after a positive meeting Tuesday.

Bucher didn’t specify a source, and this seems strange considering Stoudemire’s agent Happy Walters said after the meeting that progress had been made and that talks would continue Wednesday. Maybe the report meant that talks broke off late Wednesday night, but even that seems odd as Stoudemire was with the Heat and Knicks late Wednesday night. This is getting interesting…

The report also said that Heat president Pat Riley tried to sell Stoudemire on a “power-of-three” idea, essentially proposing that a Stoudemire-LeBron James-Dwyane Wade trio would be just the formula to win an NBA Championship.

10:59 a.m. – Channing Frye is contemplating the Suns’ generous five-year, $25 million contract offer, but is waiting on the big players (Chicago, Miami, New York, New Jersey) to make their key moves, according to a report from Yahoo! Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski.

9:56 a.m. – ESPN’s Chris Broussard reports, contradicting other reports, that Stoudemire will meet with the Knicks on Sunday (rather than Monday) and actually met with Knicks representatives last night breifly.

According to the report, the Knicks met up with STAT at a Los Angeles hotel after sitting down with Joe Johnson and Mike Miller. That must be when they got former Suns coach Mike D’Antoni on the phone to convince Stoudemire to make the coast-to-coast trip for a visit. The visit was brief, the report said, as the Knicks were in a hurry to catch a flight to Ohio, for some reason…

9:00 a.m. – Paul Coro of The Arizona Republic reports that Stoudemire’s agent Happy Walters received calls from six teams last night once the free agency period became official. Walters did not disclose the teams, but Stoudemire did meet with the Miami Heat, who are looking to add an All-Star power forward.

Additionally, Walters expected negotiations with the Suns to continue today, though he also said that Stoudemire will not accept a deal from any team for less than five years — something the Suns may balk at if they haven’t already.

Stoudemire has a meeting with the New York Knicks on Monday after coach Mike D’Antoni sold STAT on a visit to the Big Apple.

8:44 a.m. - John Gambadoro of Sports 620 KTAR reports that the Suns have offered Channing Frye a five-year deal worth $25 million.

Honestly, this surprises me. I didn’t expect the Suns to make such a substantial offer right away. Could this be a sign that Suns managing partner Robert Sarver is prepared to spend this offseason?

Gambadoro originally reported that the Suns’ offer to Frye was for $20 million, but was increased later.

Tags: Amar'e Stoudemire Amare Stoudemire Rumors Channning Frye Free Agency Lou Amundson Phoenix Suns Phoenix Suns Rumors

  • http://www.twitter.com/sarahschager Sarah Schager

    Come on Sarver!!! Frye as PF? The only thing Frye is good at is launching 3's. He can't dribble, barely rebounds, and has never shown an aggressive side that would hold up in the paint. I could careless if Amare leaves, but Frye cannot seriously be his replacement. Let's just hope these rookies got game! :)

  • Weston

    I'm glad we're going after Frye. Suns 3-point percentage has been a key piece of the puzzle, but Frye seems to lack his confidence on the road. It doesn't much matter if he can sink 'em at home if he can't deliver elsewhere.

    As for Stoudemire, I hope he's reading this: Stop being a whiner. Which do you want, money or the chance to be a part of a great basketball team? Let him walk away and take backseat to D-Wade or LBJ and he'll whine that he should be the center of attention. Pfft. We don't need whiners.

  • $-The Moneyman-$

    Way too much for Frye. Yet another sign that the Suns will look to play him as their starting PF if Amar’e leaves.

  • joe

    First off If Amare leaves then the suns should go after David Lee. He averaged 20points and 10 boards per game last year on the KNICKS! He'd only get better offensively with nash dishing him the rock and he's a much more reliable defender than Amare. I Also think the suns should trade Barbosa and let Frye leave to clear some cap and go after Rudy Gay. I love LB but Rudy is a 23 year old stud and would be amazing running the break next to nash or dragic. Amare has been my favorite player since he was drafted, but he clearly doesn't have the defensive mentality it takes on every possesion to win a ring. A starting 5 with Nash, J-Rich, Rudy Gay, D-Lee and Lopez would definetly compete at the top of the west next year. Plus Grant hill would be a great six man. I hope Sarver does things right because if he doesn't then the only good years nash has left will be wasted. Maybe Nash can convince Dirk to blow off Cuban and come win a ring. That would be AWESOME!!!

  • Beesee

    If the Suns repeat the mistake of 2005 (i.e. not paying their free agents), I am boycotting them.

  • Hayden

    Eric // Today at 5:13 pm (1 hour ago)

    Any chance there is a sign and trade for bosh with amare?

    LOL

  • Rick

    Hey i just got a message from AZ central that says Frye signed the offer of 5yr 30 mill. any truth behind this? could be a goof up by the republic

  • signSomeoneElseQuickly

    what a crazy deal and he even let them wait, LOL

  • joe

    I hope they let frye walk. When i was 14 i played on a traveling youth bball team called the Arizona stars. It was a very conpetitive league that consisted of teams from alot of different western states.Frye played on a team in the same league and I remember going up against his team and how goofy and uncordinated he was.lol He was like 6'4" or 6'5" and couldn't shoot, outside of a layup, to save his life. The highlight of my time in that league was crossing him over and doing a reverse layup. Even his teammates gave me a high five after the game.lol I look at him now and am just amazed that he's an NBA player. Good for him! I wish i was 6'11"!!! I do think he fits the suns system because he has developed a decent outside shot. But there are tons of guys who would thrive offensively with the suns because Nash creates so many open shots for the other guys on the court. If they give him $30million then the suns are CRAZY! Get a big man that plays D and has a low post game. Not a goofy giant who thinks he's a guard. Leave the shooting to the guards and get your GIANT butt in the paint and learn some post moves. When your that tall all you have to do is just raise your arms and drop the ball in the basket aways. It's like the average height man playing on a 8ft basket! The suns need to go to africa and find another Hakeem Olajuwon

  • joe

    KEEP LOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!

  • joe

    well it looks like Frye has accepted 5yr $30mil the suns offered. Very dumb move on the suns part. Losing Frye wouldn't have hurt the suns at all. He would have signed with another team and gone back to being the 8 or 9th man off the bench. What little cap room the suns have, they can't afford to waste on a big man who trys to be a shooting guard. That's what happens when your owner is a moron who just makes decisions based on being afraid to lose all his power forwards. Frye is NOT a power forward anyways. Some writers are claiming he's going to start next year at power forward for the suns. WHAT A JOKE!!!!LOL Frye has no POWER in his game at all! Kerr sure jumped ship at the right time. He knew Sarver pissed off Amare and was going to lose him. Sarver thinks he's some basketball expert when he's just some rich crook banker who is playing like he knows what he's doing. Bring in Charles Barkley as GM. At least will have someone who can spot a dud player when he see's one and isn't afraid to tell it like it is. But i digress

  • Rick

    Honestly, agree Frye isnt worth that much but the market w/ those crazy 1st day contracts going up for darko, gooden, Johnson. kind of pushed sarvers hand to pay that to Frye. like it said the market set frye's value. It would be hard to replace a guy who can flourish in this system and who knows the system well. I heard we are still interested in Warrick but would he fit well that was the question Alvin and Sarver had to ask. Now as far as Amar'e is concerned we all know he is not worth the max, due to injuries and lack of D. To be honest Im fine with letting him walk aiming after another Power forward this free agency like Lee, Boozer, Dirk. Any one of those 3 are fine. Or if a team like Houston, Cleveland, Miami are willing to do a sign and trade lets try to get a young PF and some draft picks since we traded/sold all ours. Any ways thats my thoughts. I do agree Amar'e is a beast, but his inconsistencies on defense and lack of really focusing on it kinda tore some or most fans away from what could of been

  • Kyle Fleeger

    1. I hope Amar’e stays. I don’t believe he is gone, especially if the reported concern is simply the number of years he is going to get. If he wants six, (as reported) he is going to have to do a sign-and-trade with Phoenix (bail-out option)

    OR

    He will have to settle for less years somewhere else… I think we should be willing to pay him for 4-5 years (his NBA prime) because when we start to give him more opportunities for a whole-year, he is going to contend for a scoring title and rebound at least 10 per game.

    2. I don’t think he has been a whiner. He was a professional through and through during the last two seasons where he was being shopped publicly. He has even held that Phoenix has been the favorite to re-sign him even if he opted out of his contract.

    3. What would you do? He can make more money staying, but would you honestly turn down going to play with Lebron on the Nets, or on the Bulls? That’s the opportunity to be a part of a Dynasty.

    4. Amar’e should be more reasonable about the length of his contract. The knees making his contract uninsurable is a valid reason to want fewer years with options for more in the future. Plus does Amar’e really think at 30 years old he is less likely to be better than this year? If so, I take back most of the good things I said. haha.

    5. Frye is boring and terrible. We can sign any 6’11 guy who can ONLY shoot an open three AT HOME. He played terrible on the road, terrible in the playoffs and was not the defensive player we needed to be along side Amar’e when RoLo was out. Channing should take the 5 million per year, or peace out. We can just play small with Leandro more, or play a 6’9 guy or Earl Clark instead of you. I am sure we can get hustle out of somewhere.

    6. I hope Amar’e stays, but if he leaves, let’s get a sign-and-trade for Beasley and then sign Bosh, Dirk, Boozer, or David Lee to go along with them.

  • Eric

    Any chance there is a sign and trade for bosh with amare?

  • KyonoRocks

    I agree on the Frye sentiment. Can’t believe we’re offering him that much compared to LB, who does a similar job but also contributes to a fast break. He was rubbish most of the season and really cost us in the playoffs

  • joe

    We could also try a sign n trade with the Knicks. They sign Lee and we sign Amare and make a swap. The Knicks would probably have to throw in another player to make it work like Al Harrington or Eddy Curry. We could just buy that player out like we did with Ben Wallace in the Shaq trade, and that along with trading LB and letting Frye walk would save us the cap space to go after Rudy Gay.

  • Al

    Phoenix is screwing themselves by giving Frye this much money. I rather they gave STAT the MAX at this point, because at least STAT can score over 20 points most nights playing alongside Nash. Hopefully the Suns are doing this in order to sign and trade Frye in a package deal for a better player. Suns should have just waited and see how much the Heat and Knicks were willing to offer him instead of giving Frye the amount he wants, but doesn’t truly deserve. I think Sarver’s first offer is the right price for Frye and I hardly think any other team would offer him much higher than $20 – $25 mill for 5 years.

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  • http://none@aol.com Brandon

    I think most of can agree we over paid Fry, but the contracts handed out to others were boderline ridculous and that pushed Sarver’s hand. I applaud him for spending but he spent it on the wrong guy! He sould have let him walk, then Amare walk, and then went for Dirk. Hey plays better O than Amare and would have replaced Fry’s loss at the 3.

    If Sarver is even thinking of starting Fry at the PF we are in some serious trouble. Best bet now is to go after David Lee, maybe package LB (I like him but he hasn’t play a big roll in sometime) and try a sign and trade for STAT to someone?

    Not looking good for the Suns. I wish there was some way we could get Bosh. As for Amare, I’m not sad he is leaving, he’s was great for the Suns but he’s just not a max $$$ play. He never displayed the leadership skills to be the #1 guy like KG, Duncan, or Kobe, and we all know about his D and rebounding. He’s going to definately miss Nash and I am confident it will be shown how much his game flourished. Oh well, some players want to win titles and can accept a roll and some want $$$ and to be the number one when they haven’t proven they deserve to be a #1.