Luis Scola contract details; Kendall Marshall signs


The Phoenix Suns got quite the bargain in their amnesty acquisition of Luis Scola, according to salary figures obtained by KTAR’s John Gambadoro.

Gambo reported that Scola will count $4.1 million on this year’s books, $4.5 mil next year and $4.9 mil in Year 3, with only $440K guaranteed in that final season. SI.com’s Sam Amick corroborated Gambo by reporting the deal was for $13.5 million over three years (the same total dollar figure although he did not specify the distribution).

If those figures are accurate, the Suns just acquired an above-average power forward for less than the mid-level exception.

However, as I wrote yesterday via HoopsWorld, the minimum bid on Scola was $10,041,037 because an amnesty bid must encompass the entirety of a player’s non-guaranteed salary and that is the amount of non-guaranteed money Scola was owed in the final year of his contract.

CBA expert Larry Coon explained why in an email to me today:

It’s so the waiving team won’t be required to pay any more than they would have had to pay had they waived the player without amnesty.

Without amnesty, the waiving team only pays guaranteed salary, and is off the hook for non-guaranteed salary. So with amnesty, the bidding team has to pay for all non-guaranteed salary, and the minimum bid amount reflects that.

So basically Houston will only be off the hook for the amount the Suns bid beyond the non-guaranteed dollars in the final season.

However, Gambo’s figures (with only $440K owed in Year 3) would allow the Suns to pay less than the non-guaranteed portion of Scola’s final contract year, so I would not be surprised if we later find out the entirety of that season is guaranteed or at least a bit more of it is.

Furthermore, according to Coon’s FAQ, teams are supposed to pay “the amount of their bid, spread pro rata across all remaining guaranteed years of the player’s contract,” which would seem to mean Scola will earn $4.5 million from the Suns in each of the three seasons based on what Amick and Gambo have learned. However, perhaps the non-guaranteed money in the third season will allow the Suns to spread the cap hits out disproportionately like Gambo reports.

Signing Scola will cause other issues since the Suns now have a glut of natural power forwards of varying ages and points in their development, so head coach Alvin Gentry will have quite the time mixing and matching playing time.

But anytime you can acquire a player like Scola for less than the mid-level exception, you have to do it.

Marshall signs rookie deal

Kendall Marshall is officially a Phoenix Sun.

The Suns announced this morning that Marshall signed his rookie contract with the team, which will make him eligible to begin playing in Summer League for tomorrow’s 5:30 p.m. MST game against Cleveland.

“I was wonderin why my mentions was boomin lol. happy to officially be a Phoenix Sun!” Marshall tweeted this morning.

First-round draft picks typically receive a two-year contract with two additional team options. After their fourth season, teams must extend a qualifying offer to make their player a restricted free agent like Robin Lopez is today.

The Suns were eligible to start Marshall’s contract at 120 percent of the scale amount of $1.6 million for the 13th pick in the draft, so expect Marshall to be making about $1.9 million this season as teams often give their rookies the full 120 percent.

Mayo’s price tag

Gambo tweeted the following on O.J. Mayo’s asking price:

As I’ve been saying, I’d gladly pay Mayo that much for one year, maybe even two with the Suns slowly eating into next year’s cap space, but no way would I come close to that price on anything longer. The Suns would be wise to stand their ground with the market drying up, although clearly they must add at least one more wing with Jared Dudley their only natural wing left after the Childress amnesty.

Since they have four other natural power forwards now (Scola, Frye, Morris and Warrick), I assume Michael Beasley will be the full-time three and that the Suns will give some two guard minutes to Goran Dragic to make more time for Marshall.

But even if that’s the case, the Suns badly need at least one more quality wing and perhaps two. They just can’t afford to overpay Mayo on a long-term deal because they have a scarcity at that position.

Kings sign Aaron Brooks

As if the Sacramento Kings did not have enough short point guards already, they signed former Sun Aaron Brooks to a deal today.

The Suns owned Brooks’ restricted rights but later rescinded their qualifying offer to him to create more salary cap space.

The Kings already have Isaiah Thomas and Jimmer Fredette on their depth chart at the point guard spot as well as Tyreke Evans, who won Rookie of the Year honors as a point guard before being move to the wing last season.

Sacto does not seem to value size in its floor general as the 6-foot (if that) Brooks will join the 5-foot-9 Thomas and 6-foot-2 Fredette.

You know the market must not have been hot for Brooks for him to end up in a strange situation like Sacramento. I would have thought some contender would value him as a backup point guard who could score in bushels off the bench but that does not seem to have been the case.

Scola ‘very excited’ to become a Sun


Tags: Aaron Brooks Kendall Marshall Luis Scola

  • http://none.com Russell

    7.5mil-8 mil is a good deal for Mayo. Give him a 4 year 30 mil contract.

    He will be a 19pt 4&4 guy for us. No young SG’s out there that will give us those #’s for under $8mil.

  • https://twitter.com/ZeroWolf88 John Devance

    We have 10 draft picks coming to us for the next 3 years.We shouldnt be that desperate to sign a undersiezed sg if he wont come down on his price.Its not like mayo would make us a contender.

  • JD

    Although Courtney Lee would make the Suns a rebooted Rockets team from last year, Lee is now probably a better option than Mayo. The Suns have gathered up some useful trade assets. Along with preserving cap space by passing on Mayo and going with the less expensive Lee, the Suns can better improve by making more deals in the 2013 offseason.

  • Justin

    Suns have an overload at the 4- They need to see if someone with the need of a stretch-4 like the Bulls will trade for next years 1st round or a second round from a team like the Bobcats. The Suns can use their 3 picks to try to move up in the draft next year. Warrick can be a legit backup at the 3. Sign Mayo or Lee and we got a pretty good lineup.

  • Scott

    I guess my Suns wish list has shortened to Lee, Redd, and … Z Dragic.

  • Scott

    @Justin -

    Keep in mind both Warrick and Beasley are tweeners who have difficulty defending at either forward position. Add in that Warrick – if he’s not dealt – is in his final year. So the Suns are not so overloaded.

    The Suns really only have 2 PFs: Scola and Morris.

    (Frye is really a C.)

  • bk

    That is funny. The FO is too stupid to sign Gordon at $14M a year and too smart not to sign Mayo at $8M+.

  • Ryan

    Mayo will eventually come down on his offer and the Suns will manage to nab him for 6.5 to 7 million. Mayo wants to be a starter and as of right now there aren’t too many starting SG vacancies available.

    Mayo waited all of this team because he shares the same agent as Eric Gordon. He was waiting for the Hornets to match the Suns offer on Gordon so he could negotiate a deal. He went high, the Suns went low. Hopefully, they meet in the middle so we can nab a guy who could be a 18 to 20 PPG scorer for us.

    Teams are going to have their hands full in the post dealing with Gortat and Scola which will leave the perimeter open for our 3 pt shooters to let it fly. Mayo skills are a perfect fit for the Suns.

  • CoBo

    @Justin
    Warrick is no where close to a legit back up anything much less a 3, sorry.

  • Morgan

    Scott, Beasley is not a tweener. He’s 235 lbs…5 lbs less than gortat

  • Nick

    Looking at the other teams that are interested and I think the Suns are in a great place to get Mayo for pretty cheap, we have way more flexibility than they do. No way he is getting $8M when his qualifying offer was only $7.4 and didn’t get picked up.

    I like Mayo for an average of $6M a year, but front load the shiz out of the contract leaving possibility at max player next year (probably have to trade somebody like Lopez)

  • Mike

    Any word on Michael Redd? Any chance that Phoenix can sign him to backup whomever they sign to start at SG (hopefully Mayo, Lee, or Shannon Brown)? Having Redd would allow the Suns to move Beasley to the 4 and still have options at the wing positions.

  • joey

    i think anything over 3yrs 21mil for mayo is overpaying. i want mayo bad because he can score 18-20ppg. but at the same time we can’t overpay and ruin our flexibility next year to go after harden or maybe a long long shot at howard. nobody knows what can happen next offseason. but if we overpay now for mayo then we know we won’t have space for a max guy next year.mayo will not get 8mil like he wants so i think after a few days of testing the market he’ll realize that 6-7mil and starting job on suns is a great offer. be can be an allstar on this team if he puts his mind to it.

  • Greg

    @John Devance, yea and ten late lottery/late 20s 1st rounders/ second round picks arent gonna make us a contender either, and none of those picks can net a player to make us a contender either. Sign Mayo, offer him the 7.5 or 8 a year and watch him score near 20 a night, as long as he gets his 35+ mins a game. No rookie drafted in the teens or 20s can get you that, unless we got really really lucky.

    @justin, how do you figure warrick to be a legit back up at the 3? he cant defend the post, cant defend the perimeter. People keep mentioning him or morris as the backup 3? Well, considering Beasley isnt a good defender, and Morris/Warrick at the 3 would be an even larger disaster defensively, its not an option. He hasnt been able to find a consistent rotation spot with gentry for 2 years, and its because he is one of worst defenders in league, at any position. He can score, has nice midrange game and hes still athletic. but nba is won at two ends of the floor.

    @morgan, i think raymond felton/andre miller both looked around 235 last season, are they PFs? lol i think steves point was is that his game is a mix between 3/4, and i dont think hes legit 6’10” someone mentioned combine numbers of 6’8” with shoes? whatever it is, he has a 4s body and a 4s athletic ability but plays a 3s game, which doesnt translate well for him, but with work and the right system, he will be fine.

    and @ Nick, if they even retain Lopez, they wouldnt turn around and trade him, his days in PHX may be dwindling and teams are hungry for 7 footers, there have been some ridiculous contracts. his brother got the max…..really? its not that we dont want him back, but he will get a larger offer then we want to afford somewhere else. Mayo wont be had for 6 mil, 7.5 mil is lowest i see,

    i dont think thats overpaying. his last two years he struggled off bench. it was more of his role and what they asked him to do in it that affected his percentages, not his skills as a player. if we give him the minutes, we will see the rookie/sophomore mayo, and thats worth more then 7.5, so if we get him around there, another contract that will pay for itself, similar to scolas, gorans, and possible beasley. people dont talk bout it much, but gortat has a wonderful contract, he is a guy who is vastly underpaid. the suns are looking respectable, if not pretty good at this point

  • Greg

    @ mike, i just mentioned warrick and morris a disaster defending the 3, redd would be too. redd is a sad sad defender, we would use him as a 2 that can score in spurts off bench at around 13-15 mins a night. he is nothing more then that, but he is a nice option if signed for vets minimum, i would love him back. another vet in the lockeroom with duds gortat and scola that cant keep this young guys on track

  • Greg

    @John Devance, yea and ten late lottery/late 20s 1st rounders/ second round picks arent gonna make us a contender either, and none of those picks can net a player to make us a contender either. Sign Mayo, offer him the 7.5 or 8 a year and watch him score near 20 a night, as long as he gets his 35+ mins a game. No rookie drafted in the teens or 20s can get you that, unless we got really really lucky.

    @justin, how do you figure warrick to be a legit back up at the 3? he cant defend the post, cant defend the perimeter. People keep mentioning him or morris as the backup 3? Well, considering Beasley isnt a good defender, and Morris/Warrick at the 3 would be an even larger disaster defensively, its not an option. He hasnt been able to find a consistent rotation spot with gentry for 2 years, and its because he is one of worst defenders in league, at any position. He can score, has nice midrange game and hes still athletic. but nba is won at two ends of the floor.

    @morgan, i think raymond felton/andre miller both looked around 235 last season, are they PFs? lol i think steves point was is that his game is a mix between 3/4, and i dont think hes legit 6’10” someone mentioned combine numbers of 6’8” with shoes? whatever it is, he has a 4s body and a 4s athletic ability but plays a 3s game, which doesnt translate well for him, but with work and the right system, he will be fine.

    and @ Nick, if they even retain Lopez, they wouldnt turn around and trade him, his days in PHX may be dwindling and teams are hungry for 7 footers, there have been some ridiculous contracts. his brother got the max…..really? its not that we dont want him back, but he will get a larger offer then we want to afford somewhere else. Mayo wont be had for 6 mil, 7.5 mil is lowest i see,

    i dont think thats overpaying. his last two years he struggled off bench. it was more of his role and what they asked him to do in it that affected his percentages, not his skills as a player. if we give him the minutes, we will see the rookie/sophomore mayo, and thats worth more then 7.5, so if we get him around there, another contract that will pay for itself, similar to scolas, gorans, and possible beasley. people dont talk bout it much, but gortat has a wonderful contract, he is a guy who is vastly underpaid. the suns are looking respectable, if not pretty good at this point

  • Rich Anthony, (KJL)

    It’s still Chicago versus Phoenix in regards to Redd, last I heard.

    If Mayo doesn’t come down in price then move on. Don’t want Lee either.

  • Andy

    So, wait? Is the 3rd year guaranteed or not? Does our FO know what it’s agreed to? Where are these conflicting reports coming from? And 4.5 guaranteed for a three year older Scola? That’s much less good.

  • 7SecondsOrLess

    Well, there goes Mayo! He’s signing with Dallas..

  • Greg

    well, even if it is guaranteed in 3rd year, which sources say its not, 4.9 in 3rd year is still not bad. i dont understand how anyone is even considering this move as poor or overpriced. 4.9 is less the mid-level exception money, which alot of 34/35 year olds get. look at jason terry for the celtics, you think he is gonna be worth 5 mil in 3 years? Garnett a 40 year old making 11.3 mil a year and he has double the miles on his legs as scola? (no disrespect to KG he is worth every penny just making a point) Scolas game is based on skill not athleticism, and skills last longer then athleticism. Scola should be a similar player for next 3 years with modest declines. even if for some reason 4.9 in 3rd year is “over paying” the first two years may be the best contract in the league which would more then making up for the last year, which as said, isnt guaranteed anyway. a 35 year old scola coming off the bench at 20 mins a night and bringing physical competitive play, even at diminished production, is a good deal in year 3. championship teams would kill for a guy like him, making him trade-able or an option to keep for that reason.

  • Greg

    @SSOL, what site says that?

  • Greg

    shit nvm

  • 7SecondsOrLess

    What site? Just check out Mayo’s twitter haha :)

  • Die Hard Suns Fan

    SON OF A #$%^& , NO GORDON NO MAYO , THEY EVEN SAID PHOENIX NEVER EVEN OFFERED MAYO A CONTRACT , SO HOW WAS MAYO SUPPOSE TO SIGN WITH US. FO NEEDS TO ACT FAST AND GET LEE CAUSE THERE OS NO ONE ELSE AND WE DONT HAVE A SOLID SG. THE SUNS KNEW GORDON WOULD BE MATCHED AND NEVER OFFERED MAYO ANYTHING , WTF

  • Greg

    calm down Mayo must have wanted more then Suns had in their plans no big deal, they front office has a blue print and a plan that goes way beyond any of our knowledge so lets remain calm. However, Mavs only had 4 mil in cap space so this must be a sign and trade….unless Mayo accepted a multiyear deal worth 4 mil a season….i dont see it…then id be pissed. i wanted Mayo too, best free agent option (considering the price) this year or next in my opinion for the suns, but not end of the world. positive note we can sign Allen Iverson and T-Mac for our voids at the 2 and back-up 3…..

  • http://none.com Russell

    Wow, can’t believe we couldn’t sign Mayo. We just went from a top 6 seed to a 8 at best or probably a 9 seed. Even if we land Courney Lee he is no where near the talent that Mayo is.

    If you think Eric Gordon was good on a crappy team like the Clippers when he was there and then in NO, guess what if you had put Mayo on those teams where he would have been the #1 option he would have been seen as a better player then Gordon.

    8mil a year offer may have been over paying, but Mayo is well worth it.

    And those of you holding out hope for a “max player” next year, good luck. Harden will be matched and Ibaka will be matched and if not matched they will be signed and traded so who ever gets them has to give up a ransom of players and picks. We will not get those guys. Only player out there that is not restricted is Josh Smith (who is more of #2 not #1 type guy).

    We had our chance to land a 20-4 and 4 guy in Mayo and we didn’t do it. We offered Eric Gordon 14 mil, but refused to give Mayo ( who is just as good) 8mil. Disaster.

    If this team has any guts they need to go and do a trade for Tyreke Evans.

  • Majestic One

    Redd time.

  • Brooks

    @ Russell – I’m a Kings season ticketholder, but long time Suns fan (gotta watch the team where you live unfortunately). I can tell you first hand the Suns want nothing to do with Tyreke Evans. Ball hog to the Nth degree, no semblance of a jumper, and a questionable attitude. I’m disappointed we missed out on Mayo, but I really hope the Suns FO does not make a play for ‘Reke.

  • Jason A.

    Yes it’s a bummer we missed on Mayo, but things happen for a reason. After doing some research I was beginning to think Lee is our best option anyway. We have Scola to score, Beasley to score, Dragic to score, Gortat to score…we need defense. Lee can play better defense than Mayo and comes with a better attitude. Mayo will likely be a star in Dallas, but maybe he’d have been lost here. Who knows. Now let’s just keep our cap space for next year and see what we have.

  • Scott

    @Morgan -

    It’s not like I invented the idea of Beasley being a tweener. It’s been a term thrown around regarding him since he was drafted. If you don’t believe me, google it.

    As for Gortat … he’s a lightweight for a C at 240 lbs (225 lbs as a rookie), but he is a legitimate 7′. Frye is 6′ 11″ and 245 lbs, and Lopez is 7′ and 255 lbs. None of those guys are burly bruisers. They’re light so they can run like deer.

    Look at stats for the some of the rookies this year.

    Royce White, who is playing at SF in Summer League, is listed as 6′ 8″ and 270 lbs.

    Terrence Jones is listed at 6′ 9″ and 252 lbs, and throughout the game the broadcasters were insisting he was a tweener and would struggle to find a spot, because he’s undersized for PF.

    Marcus Morris, who is considered too small to play PF, now playing at SF, has basically the same measurements as Beasley: 6′ 9″ in shoes and 235 lbs.

  • Scott

    @Greg -

    I appreciate your point about lacking defense at SF. If Dudley plays there, he’s one who has some defense, but you won’t get much from Beasley or Warrick, or Redd.

    That’s why I earlier suggested James Johnson. He was cheap, young, and – at the time – available. A defensive player who was developing his offense.

    Do you have any suggestions for a SF with a good combination of offense and defense?

  • Scott

    FWIW, the Clippers are reportedly seeking Grant Hill to play backup SF for less than $2m.

  • shazam

    mayo just signed w/ mavs….i think redd is ready to contribute this year…hope its w/ the suns

  • Tony

    @Jason,

    so when the Suns FO also strikes out on Courtney Lee, will you say the same thing about and act as if Shannon Brown is the way to go?

    @Russell,

    a top 6 seed?? What you been smoking, probably the same stuff that A-Crack’s been. Even if Mayo, they would have been lucky to be an 8th seed.

  • Scott

    The time to get Mayo, IMO, was 2 years ago. Could have got him cheap. Now he’s too expensive and not a good deal.

    The Suns need to find the next good deal before everyone knows about it and it becomes too expensive.

  • http://none.com Russell

    @Brooks I know ‘Reke struggled a little last year but he is still very talented, and he showed his rookie year he can be very effective. He can bee a 21 5 and 5 guy in this league.

  • Shane

    Plan C: Courtney Lee, he may not have the potential or talent of Mayo but he is a good defender and shooter.
    If we miss out on Lee then the Suns should execute plan D which is to tank the season and hope for a good draft pick.

  • Gosuns

    The season isn’t lost on signing either lee or mayo, if we can’t get lee sign brown or reds to a cheap 1 yr deal plus a player option cause were gonna need some depth at wing even if we pick up a big name sg next summer, it would be nice to get iggy

  • Shane

    @Gosuns: Even with Brown or Red the Suns will not make the playoffs, so if they miss out on Lee its better just to tank the season for a good draft pick and make sure to preserve cap space for the next wave of FA’s.

  • Gosuns

    But my point is whether we have Gordon,mayo, or whoever, where are their shots gonna come from, outside of Gordon and none of our past and present options are that efficient of shooters, Dragon is gonna be key to our success this yr, if he can get Beasley and those around him good shots, I think will be a scrappy team especially if our bench comes through

  • Shane

    @Gosuns: Oh ok.

    I’m hearing that Mayo signed for two years 9 million dollars, with the second year being a player option.

    I thought he wanted 8 million a year? Now he settles for 4.5 to be Vince Carters backup? Smh.

  • Mike M

    @Shane-where did you see the figure? On the ESPN article I saw Mavs had $4 million left in cap space but I don’t think the cap’s every been much of a limit on Cuban. I just find it hard to believe that Mayo would settle for so much less. I think the Suns would certainly offer more than $4.5 m.

  • Greg

    @ Scott, I actually do like Johnson, and was surprised when you mentioned him on here because I also thought he would be a nice fit because he is defensive minded. However is a sort of a tweener also, just big enough to play the 4 and just fast enough to check 3′s. Really raw offensively, and he is a turnover waiting to happen. I feel as if we already have a project somewhat in Beasley, not sure if we needed another one, but a 2nd round pick? Would have been well worth it.

    As far as other options? Im not sure, free agency wont be the way to obtain a combo of offense and defense, and as mentioned Johnson didnt accomplish that either. He has a chance to get better offensively, but at 25 (not exactly an age where players are bursting with potential still, you kinda are what you are once you hit 26ish)
    Not sure who is on the block either. Courtney Lee is the only option that comes to mind, but at 6’5” him at the 2, and not at the 3, is probably the Suns best option, but he play small-ball 3 when they bump beasley to the 4 occassionaly. Only for the right price though. If we didnt “overpay” Mayo we cant overpay Lee just to panic.

    Just a what if scenario:

    He isnt as fast, not as smooth, but Marshall reminds me alot of Ricky Rubio isnt athletic, cant shoot, and he isnt a great defender. hmmm Rubio was an 11 point 8 assist 4 rebound guy last year, and with the NBA’s open style he flourished and made that T-Wolves team an exciting offense to watch. This wouldnt bode well with Goran, but what if you shifted his minutes so he plays some more 2-guard and Marshall starts/plays 25/30 mins as the starter? Not even right away, Gentry will have to tinker with tons of combos till he finds the right one(s), he always does. Goran/Marshall backcourt gives you the best passing backcourt in the league. Marshall will excel with an open floor. Telfair can handle his role still (which he did well in for second half of last season) and signing another 2-guard to work in with Marshall/Goran/Telfair. That keeps Dudley primarily as the 3 off the bench, and he could play some 2 also. Now, this idea wont get them into the playoffs necessarily, but who cares at this point? It is a modified rebuild and we are expected to get worse before we get better, but I think the Suns are going to surprise people

  • http://jtshoopsblog.blogspot.com JT’s Hoops Blog

    Luis Scola certainly will give much needed depth in the front court; however, I doubt that they will make the playoffs with the roster that they have.

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