Steve Nash not sure Suns still 'determined to keep me'


Whenever the question has come up throughout the course of the season, I have always felt the Phoenix Suns were the favorites for Steve Nash due to his comfort and familiarity with the system that revolves around him, his loyalty, the training staff (very importantly) and the presence of his family.

With only a handful of hours left before Nash can begin flirting with potential new teams (the free-agency negotiation period opens tonight at 9:01 AZ time), Nash seems to be distancing himself from returning to Phoenix.

Nash did not tell ESPN’s Marc Stein whether any team was a favorite for his services, but he did say, “I do know that for the first time I realize that it might not be Phoenix. I would have said even in the middle of (last) season or last year that I would have thought I probably would have stayed in Phoenix forever. But it’s come to a point now where I’m facing the reality that’s not (the case).”

“I don’t necessarily feel like it’s a home run anymore,” Nash continued. “I don’t necessarily feel like they’re determined to keep me. I think there’s a lot of factors. So, one, I’m not sure they’re determined to keep me, (and) two, there’s other opportunities that are exciting. So I think I have to be open-minded … but at the same time be able to forecast where I’ll be most successful and happiest.”

The Arizona Republic’s Paul Coro reported that “the Suns’ interest in retaining Nash does not come at all costs,” being that the Suns do not appear willing to go beyond two years whereas teams like Toronto and Brooklyn may offer three.

The Suns can offer more money than any team being that they own his Bird Rights (up to the $18 mil a year range), but I expect the Suns to offer something around the two-year, $20 million range that has been whispered in recent weeks.

“He will have many factors to weigh,” Suns PBO Lon Babby told Coro. “Candidly, we will have decisions to make. If we can get together and reach a common ground, that’s fine.”

The most interesting comment Nash made to Stein was when he said, “I don’t necessarily feel like they’re determined to keep me.”

It’s impossible to tell the exact genesis of that feeling, but it could include a number of reasons such as not offering the extra year, drafting a point guard in the first round, money, something the Suns have told Nash or for once a realization by the Suns’ front office that this is the time to start over.

I’m sure that comment irks Suns management, as they have done everything possible (save for acquiring better teammates) to accommodate him throughout the incessant rumors that have cropped up the last two seasons. Due to what Nash means to the franchise, the Suns are going to publicly at least do everything possible to retain him (even when it doesn’t make the most sense) so they must hate hearing a comment like that.

The next question is whether the Suns should do everything possible to keep him.

All along the Suns’ stance has been they do not want to fall into what seems like an inevitable rebuilding project because of how long it often takes those teams to get back to their winning ways and how much luck is needed to do so.

However, there’s a school of thought that says departing the treadmill of mediocrity (AKA Nash leaving) and unleashing a full-throttled rebuilding plan could help the Suns become better sooner than if they continue to chase No. 8 seeds with Nash the next few seasons.

Of course, the best-case scenario would probably entail acquiring a wing stud like Eric Gordon (incredibly doubtful, I know) and pairing him with Nash, but short of that the question remains why would Nash want to stay to remain with a mediocre team and sentimental reasons aside why should the Suns pay a fortune in dollars and years to bring Nash back for such a squad?

Well, the answer to me would be if you are thinking short term rather than long term. There’s no move the Suns could make to win more game in 2012-13 than re-signing Steve Nash. Considering what he means to this city and these fans and the fact that many Suns followers can’t fathom this team without Two Time running the show, we can see why the Suns will eventually make a strong run at him.

Then there’s the question of why Nash would want to return. I listed some reasons at the top of this piece (comfort, familiarity, loyalty, training staff, family, the fact this is “his” team, possibly money). Yet if winning trumps all of those factors, clearly Phoenix is not the best place for him.

Steve Nash will spend the next several days meeting with a wide range of teams that can offer a wide variety of pluses and minuses. I fully expect the Suns to make a whole-hearted push to keep Nash, yet every day it’s looking more likely that the two sides will initiate an amicable divorce in which Nash moves on and the Suns at long last rebuild.

Hollinger breaks down potential Nash destinations

ESPN’s John Hollinger analyzed a variety of possible Nash destinations that he defined as quasi-realistic.

Of the Suns he writes,

Phoenix: “The sentimental choice, Phoenix can offer Nash big money via his Bird rights (up to the $18 million-and-change maximum for a player with 10 or more years of service) if it wishes and offers a training staff that many regard as the league’s best. While a more realistic figure for Nash is probably in the $10 million to $15 million per season range, it’s worth noting that the Suns can match any bidding war.

Nothing much changes in Phoenix if Nash comes back, and that’s the problem — while he gets to run the same Nash-centric offense, he’s also running it with the same teammates who missed the playoffs last season.

It’s hard to see how that is tempting for either side, which probably explains why the Suns drafted point guard Kendall Marshall and why both sides seem resigned to the fact that the party is over.

Moreover, the Suns can rebuild quickly post-Nash. They’re an alluring free-agent market due to the weather and training staff, and they can have more than $20 million in cap space if they let their veteran free agents walk, re-sign Robin Lopez for reasonable money and use the amnesty rights on Childress. There might be a year or two of pain involved, but it probably beats bringing back Nash, Grant Hill and Shannon Brown just to squeeze out an upside-free 39-43 campaign.”

Hollinger also lists Dallas (the most realistic destination to me), Toronto (who is expected to put the full court press on right at midnight Eastern and potentially offer stupid money), Brooklyn, the Knicks (Hollinger calls this “virtually inconceivable” for financial reasons), Miami, Portland and Hollinger’s favorite, Indiana.

I completely agree with him on the Pacers, a team I thought should have tried to trade for Two Time at the deadline had the Suns made him available. Of this potential dark horse entry into the Nash sweepstakes, Hollinger writes,

“The Pacers are a good team with a need at point guard and a bunch of cap space; with Nash, they could be champions. In fact, I would be hard-pressed to find a more perfect free-agent fit.

By all rights, the Pacers should be the favorites to land Nash. At the moment, they aren’t even on the radar.

The Pacers will have about $12 million in cap space this summer, including the cap holds on restricted free agents Roy Hibbert and George Hill. Indiana could offer Darren Collison in a sign-and-trade with Phoenix and give Nash a three-year deal worth about $45 million, which would put the Pacers on equal or near-equal footing with every other suitor for his services.

Meanwhile, basketball-wise this is by far the best team for which Nash could sign up and still be paid market value. The Pacers would just need to re-sign Hibbert and Hill and fill in the gaps on the wings with exception money, and Indy would give itself a three-year run at winning a championship. Could you imagine this offense with Nash at the controls, all that outside shooting at spots 2 through 4 and Hibbert in the paint?

Alas, imagine is all you’ll ever get to do. It won’t happen, because it’s Indiana, and it doesn’t appear Nash has any desire to go there.”

Tags: Steve Nash

  • Tony

    @Michael,

    Are you kidding me? “I’m sure that comment irks Suns management, as they have done everything possible (save for acquiring better teammates) to accommodate him throughout the incessant rumors that have cropped up the last two seasons.”
    Are you seriously suggesting the Suns management has done everything possible to accommodate Nash, outside of acquiring him better teammates, when the freaking guy has had to put with the revolving door of coaches and different teammates. I forgot, the exact number, but I think it’s up to 70 different teammates Nash has played with just since rejoining the Suns in 2004. Bringing in Porter or Shaq were hardly “accommodating” moves. Trading away all his good friends but Hill demonstrates “accommodation”?

    Let me explain to you what accommodating a player entails….When Kobe was crying about not having any help, Jerry Buss agreed to take on more salary to bring Gasol to LA. That’s accommodating. Let’s compare that with the Suns FO. Not only does the owner let Amare walk for nothing, he also decides to replace him with scrubs in Hedo, Childress, and Warrick.
    And let’s be completely honest, you don’t go from “the earth, moon, and stars” of an organization and six months later we don’t plan on giving the guy one extra year. Does that sound like accommodating Nash’s wishes?

    Lastly, I know you’ll probably claim that not trading Nash shows that they are accommodating him, but in fact, the FO just didn’t want to deal with the public fallout of forcing a trade. That’s the reason for such a quick shift in the FO’s perspective concerning Nash’s future. If they really considered him so important to the franchise six months ago, then they wouldn’t turn around and basically force him out by not improving the talent on the roster and by not offering him a third year deal, which is very reasonable,considering all he’s done for the franchise.

    It will be utterly disgraceful if Sarver doesn’t offer Nash a 3 year deal and uses the excuse that it was Nash who was unreasonable in contract negotiations. Look what the Celtics decided to do with KG. That’s an example of loyalty. Not offering Nash a 3rd year is paramount to a betrayal. And for you to claim that the FO has done almost everything to accommodate Nash is absolutely ridiculous.

  • Bill_Thomas

    The mismanagement and penny pinching of Sarver, Blanks and Babby is tragic. No Nash, No Dragic, no additional draft picks (Philly picked up Moultrie thru a Miami pick that was given up for nothing, couldn’t we have offered something for the pick? We are already down one guy with the loss of Frye, unless Warrick suddenly starts playing a lot better, we will be inferior to last year, especially if we don’t bring back Brown or an upgrade over Brown. All sorts of crazy trades and free agent acquisitions have been proposed on this Board, most of which are completely impractical or undoable–including proposals that we simply “sign” marquee players who will be under contract to their current teams for two years or more. Someone better get some manageable, practical improvements to this roster fast unless we are hoping for a top five pick next year.

  • Tony

    @Bill_Thomas,

    I couldn’t agree more. The FO’s systematic destruction of this once proud franchise is obvious to most reasonable fans. But then again, you read comments such as the one above claiming that the Suns management accommodated Nash throughout the last two seasons, it just goes to show how much misinformation exists. In fact, I’m starting to wonder how much influence the FO has on VTOS itself. I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if soon we get an article blaming Nash for the downfall of the Suns fortunes, and to use him as a scapegoat.

  • Tony

    VOTS*

  • steve

    @tony, every team moves players around like that. Miami had two players on its 11-12 roster that were there for the championship in 2006.

    Try not to be so needlessly biased.

  • steve

    Also, one user name is enough. Thanks.

  • http://valleyofthesuns.com Michael Schwartz

    You figured it out Tony, I’m actually Lon Babby.

    But seriously, let me ask you this. Would you give Nash $10-plus mil for his age 41 season? Does that make fiscal sense for an eventual rebuilding situation? Would you applaud management for making a move like that? To me it would make sense to give that extra year if you feel you are a Nash away from a title, but otherwise it’s iffy.

    I was talking about how the FO respected Nash’s wishes not to trade him rather than trying to make a move that could have helped the organization’s future. Also, remember they acquired his friends in the first place and have always tried to acquire guys who fit the “Nash system.”

    If there is a split, personally I don’t feel either side is to blame. If Nash wants to win, he shouldn’t sign here, and if the Suns can’t make moves to win with Nash, they should wish him luck and rebuild.

  • Tony

    @Steve,

    oh that’s so clever and funny, as if I would do that. LMAO. Typical condescending remark from a childish loser with an affinity for stupidity.

    Face it dummy, most Suns fans agree that your bff Sarver has been nothing but a disaster for the Suns franchise. It’s only the morons, such as yourself, who are contrary.

  • http://valleyofthesuns.com Michael Schwartz

    Also, I was talking about being partners with him in terms of the trade situation and accommodating him there, obviously they were not accommodating him in terms of all the moves they were making.

  • Scott

    If the Suns began the process with less than their maximum offer, it would fit the negotiating style of Babby, who has said that such a ploy is proper form, responsible, and to be expected by all parties.

    Hopefully the Suns will increase the dollar amount and the years.

    If the Suns really do want Nash, then offer him $12m a year for 3 years. And sign either one clear top NBA talent, or two sensible midlevel talents (like Mayo).

    I don’t see the problem with having Nash for 3 years, even if for the first time we see his production begin to decline. Current players with salaries that extend to the 2014-15 season are: Childress (final year), Frye (player choice), Dudley (who has a year beyond, too), and Morris (who also has a year beyond).

    This means keeping Nash through a rebuilding period where the roster continues to change, and while we see if Marshall can really handle the team and who plays well with him.

    Let’s not put all our eggs in the rookie PG basket. Give him some time to develop and the Suns time to find yet another PG replacement if he doesn’t.

    Sign Nash for 3 years.

  • Scott

    And if the Suns can’t fit the free agent contracts in along with Nash and Hill, then the ownership group needs to swallow hard, acknowledge their mistake, and use the amnesty clause to buy out Childress.

    It will pay off in the long run, because keeping Childress and not using him isn’t doing anyone favors. It’s taking up cap space and roster space.

  • Rich Anthony, (KJL)

    It is kind of difficult to have this conversation with some of you as your opinions are clouded by hatred and the near-sightedness in comparing the Suns to other teams in totally different situations.

    First of all, when comparing the Suns and Nash to the Lakers and Kobe, Nash didn’t run off all of his talent. Kobe did going as far as to say Malone made a run at his ife.

    The differences are many. Kobe had to go through what the Suns are now finally going through. Down years.
    Years where their squad just wasn’t as good as the Spurs, Suns, Maverics, etc. They had KWAME BROWN and SMUSH PARKER AND SLAVA MEDVEDENKO on the roster while the finances settled after the title runs.

    The first difference? When it came time to get talent again, Bryant wasn’t sitting on 38 years of age and even though he was the centerpiece of the team, he was in a system where he didn’t have to be the end all / be all.

    I’m sorry, but I would not be willing to give Nash 10 mil per year going on 39 either. I’m shocked Boston gave KG 11 mil per for three years!

    The other difference is market. Outside of ownership and their spending tendencies, the Lakers throw money at anybody and everybody and Jackson could make them work in the triangle.

    VERY FEW players actually work in a Nash-driven system and I’m sorry guys, but almost all of those players who were available over the last 2 years were UNDER CONTRACT somewhere else for BIG MONEY.

    Get over it already. VoTS writers and some of us readers have been screaming it for years now. At this stage of his career you simply cannot allow Nash to be “the guy” running “his system” especially when the players needed for that system are not available. That part of it is not on the backs of the guys upstairs. It’s simply fact.

    A couple of “true years” out of the playoffs is not a bad thing. By true years I mean total rebuild-and-possibly-lottery years out of the playoffs isn’t so bad especially considering how the league is set to look in that time.

    San Antonio and Dallas will be done with their runs. Lakers won’t have the same Kobe anymore and Memphis will have come back down a bit. Phoenix could be in a position to blow by them in that time and I’d rather that plan of attack over more years of Nash and the FO trying to find the best budget-bin players for the team just because they suit what he needs on he floor.

    I’m done with that actually.

  • Bill_Thomas

    @Steve, I am not Tony, if hat’s what you’re implying. I’ve never had any personal contact with Tony either.

  • steve

    I’m sorry if I was so subtle that you thought I was only implying. My bad.

    @rich – right on. Couldn’t agree more.

  • Scott

    The rumor mill insists the Rockets are still trying to trade away Scola. I’d assume they’re trying to clear out cap space to get prime free agents, like Howard.

    I don’t know if this is what the Rockets would like – if the savings in cap space is really THAT important to them – but if the Suns were interested they could offer:

    Childress, Warrick, Telfair

    for

    Scola, Morris, Lowry

    Talent-wise, that’s lopsided as hell, but it does save the Rockets $5m, and it gives them some coverage at the same positions being traded. It also gives the Suns a stable lineup till Nash’s exit, if he’s re-signed.

    Opinions?

    (Side note: it would probably frost Aaron Brooks no end if his RFA deal got killed by the Suns trading for Lowry.

    LOWWWWWWRY!!!!! – Shatner voice -)

  • Rich Anthony, (KJL)

    @Scott

    Going into this past season I would not have said no to that deal but now, I don’t know.

    Lowry went from poster boy to potential head case with “me” issues pretty quick. Consider this connection.
    Phoenix dumped Dragic off essentially because they felt he couldn’t play up to the standards they wanted.
    Houston appears ready to keep Dragon over Lowry because they favor him in that very regard.

    So, would PHX touch a guard another team values LESS than Dragon? I don’t know about that.

    And if you look at this past season and the way Houston drafted, it seems like PHX picked the superior brother this time doesn’t it? Is there anybody out there still pushing Houston’s Morris as a potential star or even a decent contributor on a team? They stepped over him pretty quickly down there.

    Scola’s remaining dollar figures aren’t bad for what he brings, but I don’t see what Phoenix can offer for it.

    And perhaps it’s just me, but I like Telfair being in charge of the bench mob. I think he got his head around it in the second half of the season and I think he can continue to improve in that role. I don’t know if I trade him.

  • Al

    It’s sad how much Phoenix has fallen. By the looks of it, Suns will be fighting for the 4th/5th positions in the Pacific division (Lottery?). Warriors have really improved their roster in this draft. Dubs just need to stay healthy and they’ll be more likely to make the playoffs than the suns this upcoming season.

  • Al

    Also, IF Steve stays with the Suns (Big If) then Marshall will play reserve alongside Aaron Brooks. Aaron would most likely run the 1 and Marshall be given the task to defend the 2. That’s how I see it. The one that should really be amnestied this season is Warrick. He really has no value and I doubt he helps the other bigs on the team improve in practice.
    Honestly, I don’t want to see Aaron Brooks or Childress leave for nothing. Especially because I REALLY don’t want to see another article like the one that was written for Pietrus by the end of next season. (Brooks/Childress: One Teams Garbage is Another Teams Treasure)

  • Tony

    @Rich,

    excuse me? Very few players actually work in a Nash-driven system???? What world are you living in? So I guess 3 trips to the WCFs means nothing right? They would have had a title if not for the suspensions as well.

    Similar to Sarver’s buddy Steve, you have no clue what you’re talking about. As far as a couple years out of the playoffs, did you forget the Suns have gone 3 out of 4 years without making it there????? Oh, I bet that was Nash’s fault too, right……. I suppose he orchestrated JJ’s move to the Hawks, or Marion’s trade for Shaq and subsequent buyout of him getting zip in return, or letting Amare walk so that he could play with Childress, Warrick, and Hedo.
    Give me a freaking break!

    Lastly, it’s just common sense and respect, you don’t lowball a player of Nash’s value, especially when he’s been the only guy keeping them somewhat relevant these past two years. This is why countless big names have left the Suns with ill-will towards Sarver and make no mistake about it, this reputation hurts the chances of the Suns landing future marquee players. You don’t lowball JJ, Marion, Amare, and now Nash and think it’s not going to have any repercussions.

  • Matt

    @Michael Schwartz

    Hey Michael, other than this whole pointless thing about whether or not to bring Nash back(the whole thing is ridiculous even giving him 2yr 20M deal is generous given that it doesn’t benefit either party). Are the Suns planning on pursuing free agents such as O.J Mayo, Michael Beasley or Anthony Randolph??

  • Scott

    @Rich -

    Those are certainly valid points. However, to me it looks like it could be an upgrade at each position, especially when you consider Warrick and Childress aren’t playing. Also, each incoming player should be easier to trade than the outgoing ones.

    Yes, if they’re all kept, the Suns would be taking on $5m more salary and more contract years than they are sending out. But it would also resolve several roster issues, such as who to play at PF with Frye out, and who to back up Nash, and who to be at depth at SF to cover when Hill eventually retires.

    While Lowry could start in the absence of Nash, if Nash is re-signed, he could give substantial relief in minutes over the next 3 years. If Lowry rejects playing behind Nash, there’s rumors that other teams are interested in Lowry. The Lakers theoretically have an interest, as do the Kings.

    So perhaps you package Scola and Lowry to LA for Pau. Or you keep Scola and trade Lowry to Sacramento for Tyreke.

    (All these trades are successful in the Trade Machine, BTW.)

    That’s a lot of speculation. But if you can get Scola, Morris, and Lowry, it would seem to either address current needs, or provide better trading options.

    For that matter, if Dallas fails to get DWill and decides to blow up, Scola and Lowry could also be traded for Dirk.

  • Rich Anthony, (KJL)

    @Tony, behold: Your words, check it out.

    “excuse me? Very few players actually work in a Nash-driven system???? What world are you living in? So I guess 3 trips to the WCFs means nothing right? They would have had a title if not for the suspensions as well.”

    Lets talk about those 3 trips to the WC Finals.

    First two had a nucleus of Nash / Matrix / STAT / Barbosa / Diaw with a couple of differences between them. One being JJ / Bell.

    D’Antoni went 7 deep. He used nothing else. Those are all of the SAME PLAYERS, not a bunch of different ones.

    WC Finals run #3. Nash / J-Rich / STAT as the Nucleus. JMZ played the role of Bell. Dragon ran the second unit a lot like Barbosa did.

    Those are not a lot of names. Fewer still go-to guys who could work in a Nash driven system. So you trying to insult me actually made my point for me and at the same time basically repeated what I said earlier.

    THERE AREN’T GOOD ENOUGH PLAYERS AVAILABLE TO RUN THE NASH DRIVEN SYSTEM. And the ones that are [JJ / STAT etc etc etc] are on OTHER TEAMS for MAJOR MONEY which could not have all been paid out by any one franchise in the history of ever.

    So before you go jumping on me, think about what you’re saying. My grandmother once told me that when your own thoughts and words paint you as an idiot to everybody else you’ve damaged yourself two-fold because others now think less of you because you don’t have the respect for yourself to come across as intelligent.

    Over the last 2 years and this off-season, the players needed to run a Nash-driven system well enough to contend have been unavailable. They’re all under contract and coveted by their teams.

    In the same off-season, a bunch of go-to guys moved around and none came to PHX. Amare left PHX. LBJ and Bosh chose less money to go join Wade AND Wade remained in house. JJ signed for 127 mil. Barbosa ran his course in PHX. J-Rich had to be dealt and brought back a guy who can run this system as a big man.

    Gordon is not the answer, and will be retained by NoH. Griffin just agreed to an extension with the clippers. LMA is going to be retained by Portland. Dirk is staying in Dallas. Odom went to LAC. D Will isn’t coming here, so D12 isn’t coming here. Brandon Roy knowing the powers of our Warlocks hasn’t even considered coming here.

    Batum is a role player in this system. He isn’t a go-to guy and he won’t be coming here. Love will be in Minny for awhile. Other “star” players don’t fit.

    So since you’re so hell bent on saying that the Suns FO didn’t do enough to bring in talent to surround Nash, I’m asking you:

    Who you got?

    Who are you thinking of over the last three or four YEARS that should have been brought in to go along with Nash? Who is the go-to scorer? Who is the Matrix like guy who does all the dirty work and can also run the break and hit a 3? Who is the guy you can throw it to for a quick ISO like JJ? Give me, (and the rest of us), these names please.

    And if you’re thinking players who are under contract, please tell us what Suns players you plan to use in a trade who don’t also SUBTRACT from the Nash-driven system over that time frame?

    Most times I ignore you because of something you open a lot of your comments with, “I can’t say I know a lot about [whatever subject here]…” and really I don’t care how much you want to go back and forth with others, but don’t call me out when it’s obvious that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Once more, the Suns now recognize that the GOOD PLAYERS needed to win in a Nash-driven system are unavailable, and they’re making plans to go in another direction whether he remains for 2 years or not.

    It is fact.

  • Rich Anthony, (KJL)

    @Scott –

    What you say does make sense on paper but I’m looking at Lowry especially. He really DID NOT LIKE how much attention Dragon got.

    I’m not sure he’d vibe with Marshall at all. I’d actually put money on a similar situation being the case.

    I like Scola as a player and I do think of him as an upgrade over Frye + Warrick COMBINED. I also like it because it’d keep Telfair’s bench mob fairly intact.

    The problem, once again, is Suns value in regards to our players. I just don’t see how we have the pieces to bring in a Lowry / Scola tandem.

    What I can see happening is something you mentioned in regards to taking HOU players and working some sort of a trade with LAL or another team.

    I see PHX as that third-party team who will take on a couple of bad contracts as long as they come with youth and / or draft picks. We’re not going anywhere significant over the next two seasons so if other teams are coming up a little bit short in deals, I can see PHX getting involved for future considerations especially if Nash moves on

  • Leo

    Suns need to sign Brandon Roy , re-sign Shannon Brown . Re-sign Aaron Brooks to back up Kendall Marshall if Nash leaves , sign free agent Chris Kaman that will help Gortat and Lopez . And sign Brandon Bass and Gerald Wallace .

  • Bill_Thomas

    What happened to my comments. Schwartz, are you censuring people ?????????

  • Tony

    @Rich,

    most of the time, your posts are completely ignorant, but this one takes the cake.

    So your half ass ridiculous comment in explaining the 3 WCFs was that the core of the Suns were still in tact? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read since Shaq was one of the best shooters in NBA history. Look, do you even know how many different teammates Nash has played with since coming back to the Suns???? It’s over 70 dummy since those 3 WCFs runs. The freaking last trip to the WCFs Gentry used a 10-man rotation!. If so few players could really fit this system, then how come so many have played with Nash since coming back?

    As far as your next stupid argument, when Amare was low-balled and let go, there were other big name pfs out there in free agency, such as Boozer, Lee, and Bosh in just that year. That’s just to name a few dummy.

    Just to show you how off-base you are, when do I ever open my comments with something along the lines of “I can’t say I know a lot about {whatever}?” The only time I have said that was in reference to players entering the draft, that’s it! So go back and try again. And when did I ever say Gordon was the answer either? Stop making up shit!

  • steve

    @Leo

    I’m surprised I haven’t even heard a peep about Brandon Roy being interested in the Valley. I would think that after Michael Redd’s performance last year, Roy might have taken notice.

    I’m not necessarily saying I would even want Roy here, but he appears to enjoy the west coast, the Suns have a lot of room on their roster (and money to spend), and the Suns are known around the league for their excellent training staff.

    Does anyone know who Roy’s teams of interest are, at this point?