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	<title>Comments on: Hedo Turkoglu: The Mr. Fourth Quarter the Phoenix Suns have been missing</title>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hedo Turkoglu defeated Dragic so bad last night at World Basketball Champion. He is the leader of Turkish team and most likely will play final against team USA (kevin durant). Hedo is a great player but he is best at 2 and 3, using him as center is not smart. I hope Suns coach realize the strength of Hedo and let him play as forward. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedo Turkoglu defeated Dragic so bad last night at World Basketball Champion. He is the leader of Turkish team and most likely will play final against team USA (kevin durant). Hedo is a great player but he is best at 2 and 3, using him as center is not smart. I hope Suns coach realize the strength of Hedo and let him play as forward. </p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Rptors fan I was excited about Turk coming to T.O. last year. I was excited for the same reasons some suns fans are excited now. Beacause he hit alot of great shots in the play-offs 2 years ago now. After watching him last season it&#039;s obvious that play-off run was an anomaly. He showed up in Toronto fat and horribly out of shape. At no point during the season did he get into shape. He didn&#039;t hit one big shot all year at any point of any game. He was slow,lazy, and completly worthless. The icing on the cake was when he didn&#039;t show up for a game because he said he was sick. Then he got caught drinking at a night club later that night. He was suspended one game by the Raps. and whined ad complained because his employer treated him like an adult and held hm accountable for his actions. This guy is a spoiled, lazy, egotistcal, bum who had one good play-off run and has been passed around the league his entire career. I&#039;ll take Barbosa ANY DAY over Hedon&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Rptors fan I was excited about Turk coming to T.O. last year. I was excited for the same reasons some suns fans are excited now. Beacause he hit alot of great shots in the play-offs 2 years ago now. After watching him last season it&#8217;s obvious that play-off run was an anomaly. He showed up in Toronto fat and horribly out of shape. At no point during the season did he get into shape. He didn&#8217;t hit one big shot all year at any point of any game. He was slow,lazy, and completly worthless. The icing on the cake was when he didn&#8217;t show up for a game because he said he was sick. Then he got caught drinking at a night club later that night. He was suspended one game by the Raps. and whined ad complained because his employer treated him like an adult and held hm accountable for his actions. This guy is a spoiled, lazy, egotistcal, bum who had one good play-off run and has been passed around the league his entire career. I&#8217;ll take Barbosa ANY DAY over Hedon&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedo Turkoglu finding a fresh start with the Phoenix Suns&#124; Valley of the Suns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedo Turkoglu finding a fresh start with the Phoenix Suns&#124; Valley of the Suns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] went on to lead the Magic to the NBA Finals during the 2008-09 season, solidifying himself as a Mr. Fourth Quarter of sorts, drilling big shot after big [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David West</title>
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		<dc:creator>David West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the Answer to our problem. David West. We trade J. Rich to New Orleans for David West and James Posey. We buy out Posey&#039;s contract and we have everyone in the right place. I would actually play Turkoglu off the bench with the second unit and have Dudley start at the 2 and Hill at the 3. 
 
Lineup: 
Nash              Dragic&#039; 
Dudley          Childress         Reynolds 
Hill                 Turkoglu        Clark 
West               Warrick          Lawall 
Lopez              Frye 
 
That would be the deepest team in the League and a match up nightmare for any team. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Answer to our problem. David West. We trade J. Rich to New Orleans for David West and James Posey. We buy out Posey&#039;s contract and we have everyone in the right place. I would actually play Turkoglu off the bench with the second unit and have Dudley start at the 2 and Hill at the 3.</p>
<p>Lineup:</p>
<p>Nash              Dragic&#039;</p>
<p>Dudley          Childress         Reynolds</p>
<p>Hill                 Turkoglu        Clark</p>
<p>West               Warrick          Lawall</p>
<p>Lopez              Frye</p>
<p>That would be the deepest team in the League and a match up nightmare for any team. </p>
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		<title>By: Summer Suns drop another to Cavs&#124; Valley of the Suns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Suns drop another to Cavs&#124; Valley of the Suns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] big news of today revolved around the Suns officially completing deals for Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress, but summer league continued in Vegas [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HankS</title>
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		<dc:creator>HankS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the Turk pick-up, as long as he&#039;s not the Suns&#039; starting power forward at five rebounds a game...

If he can play pick and roll with Robin Lopez, perhaps he could see more time with Dragic than with Nash: he&#039;d help Goran with playmaking, while Nash could bring the best out of Warrick, particularly if Fray is stretching the floor...

Oh well, just my fingers doing some thinking of their own...  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the Turk pick-up, as long as he&#8217;s not the Suns&#8217; starting power forward at five rebounds a game&#8230;</p>
<p>If he can play pick and roll with Robin Lopez, perhaps he could see more time with Dragic than with Nash: he&#8217;d help Goran with playmaking, while Nash could bring the best out of Warrick, particularly if Fray is stretching the floor&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh well, just my fingers doing some thinking of their own&#8230;  <img src='http://valleyofthesuns.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: suns68</title>
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		<dc:creator>suns68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting here counting all the times when the Suns needed a bucket down the stretch to tie or win a game, and I said to myself, gee, I wish we had Hedo Turkoglu.
Hm. That didn&#039;t take long.
Turk&#039;s a good player and I&#039;m glad they picked him up given the situation we were in. But I&#039;d like to see how he performs as a Sun before annointing him as our closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sitting here counting all the times when the Suns needed a bucket down the stretch to tie or win a game, and I said to myself, gee, I wish we had Hedo Turkoglu.<br />
Hm. That didn&#8217;t take long.<br />
Turk&#8217;s a good player and I&#8217;m glad they picked him up given the situation we were in. But I&#8217;d like to see how he performs as a Sun before annointing him as our closer.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha he&#039;s really gone. Raptors baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha he&#8217;s really gone. Raptors baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nash is a far better clutch performer.  Having Turkoglu in addition to Nash will only help.  Anon brought up some good points, but stats in the &quot;clutch&quot; time of games are always going to favor defense rather than offense because refs silence their whistles in the waning minutes of games.  For example, Kobe Bryant is largely considered to be the best clutch performer in the game today (Dirk would be in on that conversation as well, and possibly LeBron, simply because the ball was ALWAYS in his hands in the last few minutes of games), but Kobe Bryant shoots just 44.4% in the clutch (pretty much his career average).  People don&#039;t typically perform better in the clutch.  So, last year, the year where those stats were pulled from, of course Turkoglu was going to be somewhere near 40/30 on fg%/3p% in the &quot;clutch.&quot;  That&#039;s what he was on the season.  The fact that he maintained is fairly promising, because, if he has a better year with PHX than he had with Toronto, he is going to get back to his Orlando form, making clutch shots when we need them.

Another problem with those is that they&#039;re regular season.  The NBA regular season is a joke.  It&#039;s 40 games too long, and none of the players care.  The fact that Hedo took and made those big shots above is enough to let me know he&#039;s capable.  Anyone can hit one big shot.  It takes someone a little more special to hit them like Hedo has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nash is a far better clutch performer.  Having Turkoglu in addition to Nash will only help.  Anon brought up some good points, but stats in the &#8220;clutch&#8221; time of games are always going to favor defense rather than offense because refs silence their whistles in the waning minutes of games.  For example, Kobe Bryant is largely considered to be the best clutch performer in the game today (Dirk would be in on that conversation as well, and possibly LeBron, simply because the ball was ALWAYS in his hands in the last few minutes of games), but Kobe Bryant shoots just 44.4% in the clutch (pretty much his career average).  People don&#8217;t typically perform better in the clutch.  So, last year, the year where those stats were pulled from, of course Turkoglu was going to be somewhere near 40/30 on fg%/3p% in the &#8220;clutch.&#8221;  That&#8217;s what he was on the season.  The fact that he maintained is fairly promising, because, if he has a better year with PHX than he had with Toronto, he is going to get back to his Orlando form, making clutch shots when we need them.</p>
<p>Another problem with those is that they&#8217;re regular season.  The NBA regular season is a joke.  It&#8217;s 40 games too long, and none of the players care.  The fact that Hedo took and made those big shots above is enough to let me know he&#8217;s capable.  Anyone can hit one big shot.  It takes someone a little more special to hit them like Hedo has.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turk is very clutch and is the main reason why Orlando made it to the finals 2yrs ago. I live in Tampa fl and watch alot of Orlando games and turk was awesome at the end of the game for them. I&#039;m a die hard suns fan being born and raised in mesa az until i moved to tampa 2yrs ago to play semi pro baseball. Toronto didn&#039;t put the ball in turk&#039;s hands at the end of games last year. they let Calderon run the offense and try to get the ball to Bosh while turk just hung out at the 3point line. It was pathetic to watch. They would have been a much better team had they let turk run the pick and roll with Bosh just like Orlando did with turk and howard. The suns need to run the pick and fade with nash and turk. That would be instant points everytime</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turk is very clutch and is the main reason why Orlando made it to the finals 2yrs ago. I live in Tampa fl and watch alot of Orlando games and turk was awesome at the end of the game for them. I&#8217;m a die hard suns fan being born and raised in mesa az until i moved to tampa 2yrs ago to play semi pro baseball. Toronto didn&#8217;t put the ball in turk&#8217;s hands at the end of games last year. they let Calderon run the offense and try to get the ball to Bosh while turk just hung out at the 3point line. It was pathetic to watch. They would have been a much better team had they let turk run the pick and roll with Bosh just like Orlando did with turk and howard. The suns need to run the pick and fade with nash and turk. That would be instant points everytime</p>
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