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	<title>Comments on: Steve Nash is the best shooter of all time</title>
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		<title>By: Who Should be in the NBA&#8217;s 3-Point and Slam Dunk Contests &#171; Kale&#039;s Korner</title>
		<link>http://valleyofthesuns.com/2010/03/10/steve-nash-is-the-best-shooter-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-217862</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Should be in the NBA&#8217;s 3-Point and Slam Dunk Contests &#171; Kale&#039;s Korner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns. One of the most underrated shooters ever. Every one raves about his passing, but people don&#8217;t realize how good of a shooter he is. Nash is shooting 57.1 percent from the field (the best of his career) and he&#8217;s shooting 45.5 percent from three. Nash&#8217;s career 3-point percentage is an astonishing 43 percent. No wonder ESPN&#8217;s John Hollinger called Nash the best shooter of all time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns. One of the most underrated shooters ever. Every one raves about his passing, but people don&#8217;t realize how good of a shooter he is. Nash is shooting 57.1 percent from the field (the best of his career) and he&#8217;s shooting 45.5 percent from three. Nash&#8217;s career 3-point percentage is an astonishing 43 percent. No wonder ESPN&#8217;s John Hollinger called Nash the best shooter of all time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://valleyofthesuns.com/2010/03/10/steve-nash-is-the-best-shooter-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-47025</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to nitpick, but I&#039;m not sure that is really a proper usage of the term ironic.

I would argue that Kerr was a slightly superior shooter to Nash because I think degree of difficulty should be taken into account and free throws not weighed as heavily.  The free throw comparison is a little unfair because Steve Kerr never ever ever got to the line, so he simply didn&#039;t have the gametime reps necessary for practice.  

If you look just at 3 point shooting plus 2 point shooting, Kerr leads Nash .948 to .946.  3 pointers, which are a more difficult shot, Kerr leads Nash .454 to .431.  If you take away all the easy layups Nash got over his career using skills that Nash just didn&#039;t have, his 2 point shooting becomes a little less impressive.  I&#039;d be more interested in seeing a comparison of strictly long 2 pointers and 3 pointers.  That&#039;s really measuring shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to nitpick, but I&#8217;m not sure that is really a proper usage of the term ironic.</p>
<p>I would argue that Kerr was a slightly superior shooter to Nash because I think degree of difficulty should be taken into account and free throws not weighed as heavily.  The free throw comparison is a little unfair because Steve Kerr never ever ever got to the line, so he simply didn&#8217;t have the gametime reps necessary for practice.  </p>
<p>If you look just at 3 point shooting plus 2 point shooting, Kerr leads Nash .948 to .946.  3 pointers, which are a more difficult shot, Kerr leads Nash .454 to .431.  If you take away all the easy layups Nash got over his career using skills that Nash just didn&#8217;t have, his 2 point shooting becomes a little less impressive.  I&#8217;d be more interested in seeing a comparison of strictly long 2 pointers and 3 pointers.  That&#8217;s really measuring shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nash reaches 1,000-game plateau&#124; Valley of the Suns</title>
		<link>http://valleyofthesuns.com/2010/03/10/steve-nash-is-the-best-shooter-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-35005</link>
		<dc:creator>Nash reaches 1,000-game plateau&#124; Valley of the Suns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] His 11.2 assists are his highest since the 2006-2007 season (11.6), and the second highest of his career. Nash&#8217;s 16.9 points per game is also his highest since 2006-2007. His numbers speak for themselves, and ESPN&#8217;s John Hollinger even dubbed him the best shooter of all time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] His 11.2 assists are his highest since the 2006-2007 season (11.6), and the second highest of his career. Nash&#8217;s 16.9 points per game is also his highest since 2006-2007. His numbers speak for themselves, and ESPN&#8217;s John Hollinger even dubbed him the best shooter of all time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://valleyofthesuns.com/2010/03/10/steve-nash-is-the-best-shooter-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-34760</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nash is simply the best. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nash is simply the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Fleeger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Fleeger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is awesome and a sweet answer this weekend when Laker fans are talking about how Kobe deserved one of Nash&#039;s MVP&#039;s.  
 
It&#039;s also an argument for why he should be in the top 5 in voting this year!  
 
Can&#039;t wait to read about the Laker game. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is awesome and a sweet answer this weekend when Laker fans are talking about how Kobe deserved one of Nash&#039;s MVP&#039;s. </p>
<p>It&#039;s also an argument for why he should be in the top 5 in voting this year! </p>
<p>Can&#039;t wait to read about the Laker game.</p>
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		<title>By: PZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AHL 
Weighting it for how many of each shot was taken would be the exact opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.  That would be a &#8220;true shooting percentage&#8221; which is misnomer and should be titled &#8220;true scoring efficiency.&#8221;  That sort of metric tells you how efficiently you get your points, but not how good of an overall shooter you are.  That would reward someone like Shaq that is simply dominant on 2 point field goals or someone like Brent Barry/Reggie Miller that were specialists that had an opportunity to take a greater percentage of three point shots than a point guard can.   
Hollinger&#8217;s method is hardly ideal, but he was simply trying to compile a list of players that shoot the ball well from two point range, three point range and the free throw line. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AHL</p>
<p>Weighting it for how many of each shot was taken would be the exact opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.  That would be a &ldquo;true shooting percentage&rdquo; which is misnomer and should be titled &ldquo;true scoring efficiency.&rdquo;  That sort of metric tells you how efficiently you get your points, but not how good of an overall shooter you are.  That would reward someone like Shaq that is simply dominant on 2 point field goals or someone like Brent Barry/Reggie Miller that were specialists that had an opportunity to take a greater percentage of three point shots than a point guard can.  </p>
<p>Hollinger&rsquo;s method is hardly ideal, but he was simply trying to compile a list of players that shoot the ball well from two point range, three point range and the free throw line.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AHL  Players had to have at least 250 made 3 pointers to even be eligible... Eddy Curry has only taken two 3 pointers in his career so is obviously not even in the running.   I don&#039;t necessarily agree with the system but what you suggested is a straw man. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AHL  Players had to have at least 250 made 3 pointers to even be eligible&#8230; Eddy Curry has only taken two 3 pointers in his career so is obviously not even in the running.   I don&#039;t necessarily agree with the system but what you suggested is a straw man.</p>
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		<title>By: AHL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AHL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This methodology was bogus. Straight up adding together percentages? I mean, we already have TS% as a start for a combined shooting%, why take a step backwards? I mean, Hollinger could have atleast weighted it by how many of each shot was taken, ugh. 
 
By his metric, the #1 would actually be Eddy Curry, who in 13002 career minutes posted a 54.5-100.0-64.2 for a 2.186 score! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This methodology was bogus. Straight up adding together percentages? I mean, we already have TS% as a start for a combined shooting%, why take a step backwards? I mean, Hollinger could have atleast weighted it by how many of each shot was taken, ugh.</p>
<p>By his metric, the #1 would actually be Eddy Curry, who in 13002 career minutes posted a 54.5-100.0-64.2 for a 2.186 score!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s going to be a long time before we have another player quite like Steve in Phoenix. Fans here need to cherish every moment before he&#039;s gone, because we&#039;re truly witnessing history in the making. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s going to be a long time before we have another player quite like Steve in Phoenix. Fans here need to cherish every moment before he&#039;s gone, because we&#039;re truly witnessing history in the making.</p>
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		<title>By: The Z. Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Z. Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nash is the best. 
 
Not Morrow and not Kobe and not even Dirk. 
 
Suns are very fortunate to have him run the show. John Stockton, Jason Kidd,  and Magic Johnson could not even come close to what he can do with the ball. Soon Nash will have his buddy the Brazilian Blur back. They are nearly unbeatable when they play with each other. 
 
MUST start and also finish with LB. Let&#039;s go SUNS!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nash is the best.</p>
<p>Not Morrow and not Kobe and not even Dirk.</p>
<p>Suns are very fortunate to have him run the show. John Stockton, Jason Kidd,  and Magic Johnson could not even come close to what he can do with the ball. Soon Nash will have his buddy the Brazilian Blur back. They are nearly unbeatable when they play with each other.</p>
<p>MUST start and also finish with LB. Let&#039;s go SUNS!!!!</p>
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