Amare Stoudemire to Cleveland makes no sense


I understand Yahoo! Sports reported that the Cavs have emerged as “serious bidders” and that The Plain Dealer reported that the Suns and Cavs have engaged in “advancing talks” around Amare Stoudemire.

But I just don’t see it. The best the Cavs can offer is J.J. Hickson, a late first-rounder and cap relief. Hickson is a nice athlete and all, but the guy is averaging 7.4 and 4.4. He is young enough that he may yet turn into a real player some day, but at this point in time he’s not the kind of guy who can headline an Amare Stoudemire trade.

Yahoo! reports that the Heat have made everyone available but Dwyane Wade, but those offers (headlined by Beasley) don’t attract the Suns while something with Cleveland does. Hello! What am I missing here? That makes no sense.

Phoenix Stan (oops, I mean Seth Pollack) discussed the possibility of J-Rich being included with Wally Szczerbiak essentially signing a fake contract to make the numbers work, but I don’t really see that working for either team.

The Cavs would have way too many weak defensive players unwilling to sacrifice time and touches, and I don’t see why Cleveland would sacrifice its current championship chemistry for a whole is less than the sum of its parts kind of team anyway. That’s not to mention what such a deal could do to Cleveland’s 2010 cap.

The Suns would be set up nicely to make a splash in the Summer of 2010, but they would be trading a crack at the playoffs this season in the crapshoot (plus the Lakers) that is the Western Conference. I just don’t think the Suns will or should do that with a 36-year-old Steve Nash playing at an MVP level for potentially the last time in his career.

ESPN reported today the Suns are seeking “legitimate talent” for STAT, including a young player and a first-rounder, adding that “several” other teams have just as good a chance of landing Amare as Cleveland does. That leads me to believe yesterday’s reports were a bit blown out of proportion.

The way I see it, the Cavs just don’t have the pieces to match up with the Suns, as they can get a better young player and pick than Hickson and the Cavs’ selection and just as much cap relief elsewhere. I don’t know why Kerr is even talking to his old buddy Danny Ferry unless there’s a possibility of a three-team deal that lands Amare in Cleveland and makes some sense for the Suns.

I do understand that any Amare deal will make the Suns worse in the interim. I can live with that so long as the prospect they’re receiving is better than J.J. Hickson.

Tags: Amar'e Stoudemire J.J. Hickson

  • Chris

    You should try and watch JJ sometime. He will not ever be a franchise player, but STAT is not a franchise player also.

    What you do get in JJ is a Hyper athletic PF who will thrive in your no defense run and gun offence. You keep up that same offence in the future he will get 21+ per game easy.

    Get something for him while you can, you need young players for the future anyways.

  • Zack

    I guess you haven’t been watching JJ develop lately. I am happy you hold that opinion, however, as I’m in Cleveland and hoping we don’t make this move. I’d rather have JJ than a no-defense, no-chemistry Amare.

  • Jake

    Steve Kerr is just a moron.

  • http://www.cavs.com Alec

    I agree with Zach. JJ is playing out of his mind lately. The Suns could turn him into an offensive machine at the 4. And the Suns would get 11 million in Z’s salary which they would pay off making him a free agent, and then like 12 million more from Wally’s contract in relief.

  • Dan

    I think the Cavs might be feeding Hickson right now to try and bump his worth in a trade. JJ monthly stats are pretty consistent at 7-9 points per game until FEB. It could be a trick

  • Kevin

    This trade seems AWFUL for the Suns!!!!!!! Anyone replying positively about this is a Cavs fan!!!! KEEP AMARE!!!!

  • ll

    Hahahaha…. Yeah it could be a trick. Maybe this is like WWF.

  • http://www.valleyofthesuns.com Michael Schwartz

    @Dan Great point there. Let’s just hope Kerr is smart enough not to fall for it! (Gulp!)

  • Zane

    KEEP AMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hickson AND A CRAPPY DRAFT PICK FOR AMARE IS RETARDED! IF KERR DOES THIS, HE IS EVEN MORE OF A F*CKING IDIOT THAN I THOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • adam

    it makes perfect sense….give your superstar what he wants

  • NJ

    Nice choice of words Zane, really brilliant how you managed to make any sane person disregard your comments. Seriously though, the Suns need more than this unbelieveably bad trade could give them for Amare. The Beasley trade is probly the best way to go, as Beasley has more of a ceiling that Amare, is about as good as him on defense currently, and costs less enough that the Suns could get an excellent midlevel player in the 2010 sweepstakes.

  • Ace

    Am thinking they should try the trade with the warriors. Stephen Curry is out of Phoenix’s grasp now. However, I think Biedrins and Maggette for Stoudemire and Collins would be a great trade for both teams. Stoudemire is most likely to walk at the end of the season with the warriors, giving them more cap space and chance to attract a quiet free agent. Phoenix on the other hand will be getting a big man in Biedrins with good defense and the potential to improve. Also, maggette will be a good forward that can score 20 points nightly.

  • adam

    we need to have a reason to have lebron stay in cleveland. jj hickson isnt enough to keep him in town. amare is a big enough name that lebron will stick around and try to win another championship after he wins this years.

  • martinez

    im hoping this is a coo on kerr's part cuz if he does this deal or any deal with out a high draft pick and talent he will be fired and as suns fans we need to see thru the smoke screen were not in a bad position its toronto and miami thats in worse shape than we are so i think that stoudimire needs to wokin up and told that he is not a max contract type of player and take a pay cut so we "THE PHX SUNS" go after a player like d-wade and trade richardson cuz its miami or toronto that will lose there superstar if nothing happens d-wade already said it if they dont get him help soon and i mean from now unil june then he is gone so lets see what happens

  • Ryan

    If this trade goes down as Amare for JJ and Z, it will be the last straw for Kerr. He needs to be fired. If the whole “Wally for Richardson” part is included (which, btw, I don’t think will be included), I’m not 100% opposed to it seeing that we will be able to have lots and lots of cap space this summer.

    But again, it seems like it will just be Amare for JJ and Z. And if that happens, how much more will Suns fans be willing to put up with?

  • Hersey

    If the Suns dump Amar’e for Hickson and scraps, Kerr needs to quit because the Suns would be the new Clippers. Perennial losers who don’t want to pay to win. Hickson is a decent young role player on a great team. Much like other guys who play with superstars, he’s overrated. He’s an energy big growing into his game, but not a player you trade an All Star for. He doesn’t provide the scoring punch that Amar’e does and his game is too similar to Lopez to think that is our frontline of the future. The cap space argument makes no sense because who is going to sign with Phoenix if they’ve dismantled a great team because they didn’t want to pay anyone. The Suns would be shopping for a player who can score on the block and in the PNR with Nash- basically what they just gave up. And if they do this, hopefully they trade Nash to a contender in the offseason.

  • Ravi

    It makes sense because Sarver loves his dollar dollar bills. That’s all there is to it unfortunately.

  • wesjoenixon

    This trade is crazy. If the Suns do this trade I will never set foot into their arena as long as I live. Ever. I will never spend one dollar on their shirts, hats, shoes, bed spreads, nothing. I will never let my son convince me to go to a game live again. I won’t watch the Suns on TV. Ever again. This is such a slap in the face of fans, I will slap back by my silence.

  • http://www.valleyofthesuns.com Michael Schwartz

    That last comment pretty much describes my feelings about the deal as well and likely most people who root for the Phoenix Suns. The Suns would be wise to heed the warning from their fans on this one.

  • BaffledSunsFan

    All fellow Suns fans prey that Kerr and Danny Ferry who are best friends, are putting this out there so everyone eles interested in Amare raises there offers. If Kerr has even thought for 1 second that this will help the Suns organization in any way he needs to be replaced and have himself checked out.

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