Cavaliers 109, Suns 92 – Turned over

Posted by on February 11th, 11:25 pm

That pretty much sums up the Suns' first half. (AP/Mark Duncan)

That pretty much sums up the Suns' first half. (AP/Mark Duncan)

What a fitting way for Phoenix to enter the All-Star break.

In Wednesday’s 109-92 defeat in Cleveland the Suns suffered their worst turnover game of the year – which is saying something – allowed an opposing stud guard to set a career high, started strong but then faded and ultimately got blown out in a loss that pushes them to the outside looking in if the playoffs were to start today.

Because of all that I think everybody would be surprised if the Suns team that left Quicken Loans Arena will be the same Suns team that suits up Tuesday against the Clippers.

This team seemed to be playing some inspired basketball by getting out and running in the first quarter, but despite shooting 66.7 percent shooting and holding the Cavs to 39.3 percent shooting, the score was tied. Against a team as good as Cleveland, that certainly was a bad sign.

Then the turnover bug bit worse than it has all year, leading to a season-high 25 turnover day that includes 18 in the first half and 12 in the second quarter alone when Cleveland built a 12-point lead. That’s as many TOs as teams like Detroit and San Antonio average in a game.

“That’s the name of the game,” Amare told Suns.com. “Our turnovers tonight was what got us down. They scored 34 points off turnovers, that’s the ballgame right there. Turnovers have been something that have been happening all season long, so it’s nothing new right now.”

Goran Dragic led the turnover barrage with five in 21 minutes, followed by Shaq’s four and three from every other starter – Amare, J-Rich, Hill and LB. That’s not the kind of balance a team likes to have.

Of course, Steve Nash missing a game due to back, shoulder and hamstring issues (also a very bad sign going forward) left the Suns with little chance to win from the tip against a team that’s now 24-1 at home and plays such good defense. As we saw, Dragic isn’t up to such a challenge even playing backup minutes quite yet.

But even when Nash does play, turnovers have been a major issue all season, as only lowly Oklahoma City (16.4 per game) turns the ball over more frequently than Phoenix does (16.3), and barely at that.

What’s interesting is that even when the Suns ran more the past four years, their turnover numbers were much better. You would think a team as fast as the SSOL Suns would turn the ball over making risky passes pushing it, but maybe them shooting so fast prevented turnovers that come later in the clock.

Last year they ranked 17th in the league and averaged 13.9 turnovers per game, in 06-07 they were ninth with 14.5, in 05-06 they were third with 13.3 and in 04-05 they were seventh with 13.7.

They’re turning the ball over two to three times more per game this year than in previous years, and for a team that outscores its opponents by just 0.9 points per game, those are two or three pretty important possessions.

The second biggest reason the Suns lost this game is because of Mo Williams, who certainly has my All-Star vote after torching the Suns for a career-high 44 points on 18-for-26 points, and he’s not the only guard who has looked like an All-Star against the Suns this season.

Yes, just like Devin Harris, those two ugly words again, career high.

Williams certainly hit some tough shots but he was also given far too much space far too often.

“Mo was on fire,” Amare said. “Are you kidding me? We couldn’t contain him. He was coming off screen and rolls with a lot of space in between. He was just pulling the trigger, he had his shotgun cocked and loaded. He was on fire tonight, so props to him for how well he shot the ball. I think that was the momentum shift for them.”

But should this be such a big surprise? Mo torched the Kings for 43 just a few weeks ago, and has played like, well, an All-Star much of the season.

Williams pretty much did whatever he wanted all evening, and where were the Suns to throw a different look at him? Giving Wally Szczerbiak wide-open shots worked for a while in the first quarter, but it was a recipe for disaster against Mo in the second.

In general I believe a coach deserves at least a year, but head coach Terry Porter clearly isn’t getting this Suns team to play up to its potential.

They still lack a clear identity. They looked like the old SSOL Suns even sans Nash in the first quarter, and then went away from the running game much of the rest of the contest.

Part of me thinks Porter deserves a full year to implement his system, but it’s hard to tell what system that is with such a lack of identity. This team is clearly underachieving, and you’ve got to wonder if the players are tuning him out.

Still, I don’t think Alvin Gentry is much of an upgrade, and is there any coach out there that immediately would command the respect of the locker room and be able to put back the pieces of this broken season? I really don’t think so, and that’s why I bet Kerr sticks with his guy for the remainder of the year before possible axing him over the summer.

Instead the likely fall guy is, of course, Amare Stoudemire, and if this was the last time we see STAT in a Suns uniform, at least he put up a very Amare-like stat line of 27 points and six boards, complete with a team-worst plus-minus of minus 22 in 38 minutes. Meanwhile Cleveland’s All-Star starter, a guy by the name of LeBron, boasted a plus 22.

This is how bad things have gotten on Planet Orange, the Suns just went 1-2 on a road trip, dropping both of their losses in blowouts, and I wouldn’t consider it a horrible trip.

The way they have been playing I was very worried they would be heading into the break with three straight losses, so even the one win makes this trip at least decent.

When a 1-2 trip is considered a best-case scenario, that’s when you know your team has fallen from the ranks of the elite. (As if we didn’t already know that)

Michael Schwartz founded ValleyoftheSuns in October 2008 and is the owner/editor emeritus of the site. He is currently working toward his MBA in sports business at San Diego State University.

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Tags: Amare Stoudemire · Cleveland Cavaliers · Defense · Phoenix Suns Recap · Terry Porter · Turnovers

10 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Mike // Feb 11, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    I thought Mo went off on Phoenix but that was Sacramento – you're right. Still, coaches should be prepared for this kind of thing and at the very least make halftime adjustments.

    I was very worried when Harris scored his 40+ on Phoenix, only to see Wade drop 40+ the next night. Seems like they aren't scouting these guys and setting up a game plane at all defensively.

  • 2 Mike // Feb 11, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    What about Rudy T, Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson or Bobby Knight?

  • 3 Mike // Feb 11, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Sigh. Seems like such a waste of a season.

  • 4 Eric // Feb 12, 2009 at 12:55 am

    Mike Budenholzer from the Spurs is the guy we need to hire as head coach this off season. From what I gather, he finished 2nd to Porter in the head coach race last summer.

  • 5 Dave Dulberg // Feb 12, 2009 at 3:18 am

    You guys are all forgetting Marc Iavaroni, who was D'Antoni's head assistant during the SSOL Suns Years…He is out there and I am sure ready to prove he can still coach…And he left on his own terms, one of the few not pushed out by management…

  • 6 Michael Schwartz // Feb 12, 2009 at 3:24 am

    Van Gundy – Too much of a defensive coach to work with this crew, plus I’d miss him too much on TV.
    AJ – If he was such a grinder to the extent the Mavs tuned him out, I doubt he’d be a great fit here, but definitely an interesting name to consider later.
    Bobby Knight – There’s only one way that would end, and it wouldn’t be pretty.
    Rudy T – Interesting name, but he’s been out of coaching for a little while now, and I just couldn’t see something like that happening so quickly. Offseason when everybody has more time to think things over and evaluate situations, maybe.

    And depending on how the roster is overhauled, Johnson could be a great coach for next year potentially. I’m just not sure there’s going to be a better option than Porter the next two months when considering the upheaval factor in a season already defined by upheaval (and we’re sure to get some more in the next week).

  • 7 Michael Schwartz // Feb 12, 2009 at 6:02 am

    Funny that this turned into a "Who should be the next coach" thread, but yeah, I mentioned the possibility of bringing back Iavaroni as an assistant around the time he was fired. I've always thought down the line he might be might be the best fit, but let's not forget that although he didn't have anything to work with in Memphis, they were god awful and apparently management didn't think he did a good job of developing players. I think even Iavaroni would be a tough midyear adjustment, but end of the season if they fire Porter he'd have to be a top candidate.

  • 8 Brandon // Feb 12, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Guys, Porter will not be fired.

    Should he? You bet. But we all know Sarver. He won't throw away money and fire Porter, not in the middle of the season.

    It's not going to happen unfortunately.

  • 9 Mark // Feb 13, 2009 at 1:32 am

    this is what needs to happen, but won’t:

    We need to fire Sarver (he needs to sell the team).

    Then Kerr and Porter

    Then prepare for serious rebuilding mode:
    Trade or cut everyone over 30 and reshape the team around Amar’e. We have to build for the future because we’re going to stink for a couple years. Why put it off?

    Awesome trade of our unprotected 2010 pick Kerr by the way to dump KT’s salary.

  • 10 Kenny // Feb 13, 2009 at 8:02 am

    I’m seeing a lot of ‘rumors’ around the blogs that Porter actually is on the chopping block. Based on Sarvers chat with Ash and Gambo I don’t completely believe that Sarver is always 100% about the bottom dollar which makes me think there might be something to these rumors. I’m looking at the next 1 to 3 days for something to happen with the coaching staff if at all. It is highly obvious that a lot of the deficiencies are due to coaching and overall preparedness of the players. Just like our economy, our team has to hit rock bottom before we can rebuild and see things start to improve again.

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